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Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#421
On July 11 2013 01:58 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:58 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:50 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 Eury wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 ntssauce wrote:
i think we can all agree that lucifron was better and the 2nd game had nothing to do with " perfect micro " ( micro spamming few FFs LOL nice what toss consider micro nowadays ) , but how strong the push itself was.


I think we can all agree that Naniwa is a much better player than Luci ever can hope to be considering he beat him with insane lag from Korea. Luci was overrated already in Warcraft 3 and that story continues in SC 2.

Please, Naniwa would be shit without protoss. He's really good at preparing builds, which is great for a protoss player. In terms of actual skill theres no contest

Also I'm not qq about Naniwa, even though I can't stand him. Protoss is just fucking stupid no matter what.


Quoting this post for posterity :D

Always glad to hear that people would be shit if they didn't play that famous race that just hasn't won as often as others, ever.

Dude I'm not saying Protoss is OP, it just takes less skill to master than other races. Preparing builds and mindgames matter more than actual skill. Terran and Zerg players are just better when it comes to real skill.

I want to watch starcraft, not poker with lazer guns.

Define "skill"

Micro, the ability to multitask, do lots of different things really fast, etc.

Obviously not all protoss players are like this. But be honest, when was the last time you saw Naniwa win an important game where it wasn't some kind of build order win, defending an all in, or using some kind of pre-planned strategy for his opponent.

The guy is trash, and its embarrassing to the foreign scene that people actually think he's the best foreigner.


User was temp banned for this post.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#422
On July 11 2013 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it

c'mon you never rewear shirts?
Liquid | SKT
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#423
On July 11 2013 02:06 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:05 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it


I hope not ... I ... like ... dirty things


Oh, do you... :3
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3401 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#424
On July 11 2013 02:04 Flanq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.

Calling him a cheeser and saying he didn't deserve to win are two VERY different things

Not really.
Cheese is also called coin-flipping for a reason.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46683 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#425
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..




Sup.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#426
So will uzer 2-0?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#427
On July 11 2013 02:02 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yeah. I do not object to any kind of play, as long as there's no cheating involved. As a spectator though, I don't particularly enjoy watching only all-ins (though in this case, I doubt we would have gotten any good games even if they went for macro, simply because of the latency), but players should play to win, and nothing else.

As an example, Leenock clearly deserved his win over Naniwa in MLG Providence 2011, even though he went for roach rushes in all his wins.


Yep, exactly. That's the exact mentality.

However, discussing the community's disparate treatment of players is taking away from Uzer and Bly. Let's watch these games and discuss in a different thread
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
July 10 2013 17:07 GMT
#428
On July 11 2013 02:04 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.



After 3 years on this forum, I still don't understand why you people say 'nobody enjoys all-ins" ? I LOVE to see all-ins, whatever the race, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


All ins with tense micro are great to watch IMO. All in that rofltstomp or get crushed a lot less :D

And the second game; just look like Nani making unit, randomly throw a few FF near the bunker and a-move
(even if i'm pretty sure it take more than that :D)
Pif Paf Pouf
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 10 2013 17:07 GMT
#429
On July 11 2013 02:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYLhOXn5rTw

Sup.

I enjoy all-inns when they make for fun games.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 10 2013 17:07 GMT
#430
On July 11 2013 02:06 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:05 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it

c'mon you never rewear shirts?


Nah, I throw them away after I wore them once. Seriously. Same with underwear and socks.
I think it's disgusting.
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Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
July 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#431
On July 11 2013 02:06 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:58 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:50 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 Eury wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 ntssauce wrote:
i think we can all agree that lucifron was better and the 2nd game had nothing to do with " perfect micro " ( micro spamming few FFs LOL nice what toss consider micro nowadays ) , but how strong the push itself was.


I think we can all agree that Naniwa is a much better player than Luci ever can hope to be considering he beat him with insane lag from Korea. Luci was overrated already in Warcraft 3 and that story continues in SC 2.

Please, Naniwa would be shit without protoss. He's really good at preparing builds, which is great for a protoss player. In terms of actual skill theres no contest

Also I'm not qq about Naniwa, even though I can't stand him. Protoss is just fucking stupid no matter what.


Quoting this post for posterity :D

Always glad to hear that people would be shit if they didn't play that famous race that just hasn't won as often as others, ever.

Dude I'm not saying Protoss is OP, it just takes less skill to master than other races. Preparing builds and mindgames matter more than actual skill. Terran and Zerg players are just better when it comes to real skill.

I want to watch starcraft, not poker with lazer guns.

Define "skill"

Micro, the ability to multitask, do lots of different things really fast, etc.

Obviously not all protoss players are like this. But be honest, when was the last time you saw Naniwa win an important game where it wasn't some kind of build order win, defending an all in, or using some kind of pre-planned strategy for his opponent.

The guy is trash, and its embarrassing to the foreign scene that people actually think he's the best foreigner.

so planing, creating builds, strategeis, tactics is not a skill in a strategy game ?
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
July 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#432
On July 11 2013 02:06 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:04 Flanq wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.

Calling him a cheeser and saying he didn't deserve to win are two VERY different things

Not really.
Cheese is also called coin-flipping for a reason.

Taking a risk and having it pay off doesn't make them undeserving, if he doesn't deserve to win, he won't win.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#433
On July 11 2013 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it


True. He probably drooled all over it when watching Welmu play yesterday. Understandably so.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#434
On July 11 2013 02:07 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:06 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:05 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it

c'mon you never rewear shirts?


Nah, I throw them away after I wore them once. Seriously. Same with underwear and socks.
I think it's disgusting.

Socks - 2 days, underwear - 1 day, t-shirts - 3-5 days, unless it's been a sweaty day.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#435
On July 11 2013 01:28 packrat386 wrote:
where is shellbot? he usually likes these threads...

I was in class learning about super fun stuff
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 10 2013 17:08 GMT
#436
Updated Aguliac. Interesting.

                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
NaNiwa 86.69% 73.11% 13.59% 13.31% 0.00%
Bly 30.37% 16.05% 14.32% 17.75% 51.87%
uzer 24.37% 10.84% 13.53% 49.23% 26.40%
LucifroN 58.56% 0.00% 58.56% 19.71% 21.73%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
July 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#437
On July 11 2013 02:03 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:01 Eurekastreet wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Ssssshhh. He makes the questions AND the answers. This was just rethorical.


The guy went overboard Once, then proved to be pretty reasonable and attentive. No need to be a 9gag douche here.


I had to google to know what 9gag is. Keep on insulting people at the first occasion, that would make my comments less cynical in the future, people like you make me want to learn manners.
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46683 Posts
July 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#438
On July 11 2013 02:06 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:58 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:50 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 Eury wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 ntssauce wrote:
i think we can all agree that lucifron was better and the 2nd game had nothing to do with " perfect micro " ( micro spamming few FFs LOL nice what toss consider micro nowadays ) , but how strong the push itself was.


I think we can all agree that Naniwa is a much better player than Luci ever can hope to be considering he beat him with insane lag from Korea. Luci was overrated already in Warcraft 3 and that story continues in SC 2.

Please, Naniwa would be shit without protoss. He's really good at preparing builds, which is great for a protoss player. In terms of actual skill theres no contest

Also I'm not qq about Naniwa, even though I can't stand him. Protoss is just fucking stupid no matter what.


Quoting this post for posterity :D

Always glad to hear that people would be shit if they didn't play that famous race that just hasn't won as often as others, ever.

Dude I'm not saying Protoss is OP, it just takes less skill to master than other races. Preparing builds and mindgames matter more than actual skill. Terran and Zerg players are just better when it comes to real skill.

I want to watch starcraft, not poker with lazer guns.

Define "skill"

Micro, the ability to multitask, do lots of different things really fast, etc.

Obviously not all protoss players are like this. But be honest, when was the last time you saw Naniwa win an important game where it wasn't some kind of build order win, defending an all in, or using some kind of pre-planned strategy for his opponent.

The guy is trash, and its embarrassing to the foreign scene that people actually think he's the best foreigner.


Just to be sure... you are trolling, right?

Since obviously, being a great pro-gamer has nothing to do with hard work, accomplishments, and prize money, and all to do with playing as standard a game as possible >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#439
On July 11 2013 02:06 Green_25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:58 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:54 Nebuchad wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:50 Green_25 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 Eury wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:40 ntssauce wrote:
i think we can all agree that lucifron was better and the 2nd game had nothing to do with " perfect micro " ( micro spamming few FFs LOL nice what toss consider micro nowadays ) , but how strong the push itself was.


I think we can all agree that Naniwa is a much better player than Luci ever can hope to be considering he beat him with insane lag from Korea. Luci was overrated already in Warcraft 3 and that story continues in SC 2.

Please, Naniwa would be shit without protoss. He's really good at preparing builds, which is great for a protoss player. In terms of actual skill theres no contest

Also I'm not qq about Naniwa, even though I can't stand him. Protoss is just fucking stupid no matter what.


Quoting this post for posterity :D

Always glad to hear that people would be shit if they didn't play that famous race that just hasn't won as often as others, ever.

Dude I'm not saying Protoss is OP, it just takes less skill to master than other races. Preparing builds and mindgames matter more than actual skill. Terran and Zerg players are just better when it comes to real skill.

I want to watch starcraft, not poker with lazer guns.

Define "skill"

Micro, the ability to multitask, do lots of different things really fast, etc.

Obviously not all protoss players are like this. But be honest, when was the last time you saw Naniwa win an important game where it wasn't some kind of build order win, defending an all in, or using some kind of pre-planned strategy for his opponent.

The guy is trash, and its embarrassing to the foreign scene that people actually think he's the best foreigner.

Lol this is the stupidest thing I've read here in a while.
xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
July 10 2013 17:09 GMT
#440
On July 11 2013 01:42 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Funny to see the massive bias after people shit on tails/duckdeok in LR threads for all inning every game :D


lol... You're not reading hard enough. This LR thread is turning into nani flame fest on how is it to properly play the game.
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