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Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 17:04:14
July 10 2013 17:02 GMT
#401
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yeah. I do not object to any kind of play, as long as there's no cheating involved. As a spectator though, I don't particularly enjoy watching only all-ins (though in this case, I doubt we would have gotten any good games even if they went for macro, simply because of the latency), but players should play to win, and nothing else.

As an example, Leenock clearly deserved his win over Naniwa in MLG Providence 2011, even though he went for roach rushes in all his wins.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44790 Posts
July 10 2013 17:02 GMT
#402
On July 11 2013 02:01 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes

yeah, I've always thought that cheese was part of the game.


...unless you're cheesing bisu and winning, then you suck and I hate you.


Flash on Monty Hall x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
July 10 2013 17:02 GMT
#403
Balance idea: pylons can only be built in pylon range( when the energy fields touch) :OOO!
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
July 10 2013 17:02 GMT
#404
On July 11 2013 01:58 Snusmumriken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:55 TheDwf wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:53 KristofferAG wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:52 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:50 Snusmumriken wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:49 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:48 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:46 Crownlol wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:43 ntssauce wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:42 1ns4n3 wrote:
[quote]

Are you f****ing serious ?

Have you even watched theses games ?
He deserved NONE of his wins

/signed


Its ok man, when a Korean does it it's smart, aggressive play that's punishing greed.

When NaNi does it, it's apparently Protoss imba and completely undeserved.

Luckily, Toss fans are used to this.


we are not flaming nani, we are flaming protoss all ins, you should've realized it and now stop protecting him like you are his best friend for ever


But 10pool and 11/11rax don't catch any flak at all. Hmmm, that's odd.


lol I dont even...

Yeah all cheese gets flamed--but I'm not exactly sure why these all-ins mean he doesn't deserve it?

Lucifron showed bad defense. Should he get a special NR20 zone b/c he happens to be great at macro?

People love to hate on all-inns. Lucifron should've realized what was going on at least after game 2 and prepared better. At least he should've been more on top of his scouting after that g1.

Have fun scouting something on Whirlwind. Sometimes people proxy everything in another spawn position, how will you even see that?


1. Count pylons
2. Pray


a single marine scouting around his base couldve seen pylon/probe earlier, also with how nani actively tried to deny scouting luci shouldve been a little suspicious at least

not saying its easy to scout and prepare at all but thats just part of starcraft in a lot of situations for every race
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 10 2013 17:02 GMT
#405
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#406
On July 11 2013 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:01 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes

yeah, I've always thought that cheese was part of the game.


...unless you're cheesing bisu and winning, then you suck and I hate you.


Flash on Monty Hall x.x

You have to admit though, that was a really well executed cheese.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#407
On July 11 2013 02:01 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Ssssshhh. He makes the questions AND the answers. This was just rethorical.


The guy went overboard Once, then proved to be pretty reasonable and attentive. No need to be a 9gag douche here.
I am the 0.0007% /forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17208334|| Big Black Women Vocals Is Like Porn to my Ears ||San Antonio Spurs|Boston Celtics||#1EZToss Hater;
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#408
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44790 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#409
On July 11 2013 02:03 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:01 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes

yeah, I've always thought that cheese was part of the game.


...unless you're cheesing bisu and winning, then you suck and I hate you.


Flash on Monty Hall x.x

You have to admit though, that was a really well executed cheese.


I agree...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#410
On July 11 2013 02:03 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:01 DamageControL wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes

yeah, I've always thought that cheese was part of the game.


...unless you're cheesing bisu and winning, then you suck and I hate you.


Flash on Monty Hall x.x

You have to admit though, that was a really well executed cheese.

but bisu!

Liquid | SKT
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#411
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!
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garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
July 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#412
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?

I think so. At the very least it's the same outfit, maybe he has copies of it.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
July 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#413
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.

Calling him a cheeser and saying he didn't deserve to win are two VERY different things
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
July 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#414
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.



After 3 years on this forum, I still don't understand why you people say 'nobody enjoys all-ins" ? I LOVE to see all-ins, whatever the race, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#415
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
July 10 2013 17:04 GMT
#416
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes

Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins),


I like all ins

They're some of my favorite games to watch.
dreaming of a sunny day
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#417
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


Maybe he bought 2 shirts in case one of them gets stained by toothpaste.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 10 2013 17:05 GMT
#418
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 17:06:26
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#419
On July 11 2013 02:04 Eurekastreet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:02 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:59 YoungTyTy wrote:
On July 11 2013 01:58 1ns4n3 wrote:
I'm sorry I agree I went too far.
But would you Protoss guys say that Lucifron deserve his win if he had win two 11-11 in a row against naniwa ?
Just be honest.

Yes


Yes sure. People even called Mvp a cheeser when he won his last GSL.
Nobody really enjoys all ins (especially if all 3 games in a Bo3 are all ins), this is more about Naniwa haters and Faniwas clashing together..

Just one example: Innovation vs. Flash. I think we all expected more from that series.



After 3 years on this forum, I still don't understand why you people say 'nobody enjoys all-ins" ? I LOVE to see all-ins, whatever the race, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.


Once again it comes down to the same basic difference.

An all-in is only disgusting insofar as it is done by a person that has been predetermined to be supposed to lose.
If it is done by any other person, it is called a "brillant mindgame build"

Semantics, youguys.
No will to live, no wish to die
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#420
On July 11 2013 02:05 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 02:04 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 Lorning wrote:
On July 11 2013 02:03 AgentW wrote:
Completely random: is Apollo wearing the same shirt and tie as yesterday?


Yes, so disgusting!


If it aint broke don't fix it!


I hope he atleast washed it


I hope not ... I ... like ... dirty things
Terran & Potato Salad.
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