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Gonozal
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany320 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#421
oh no not again a bunkerstyle daybreak pvz
aka NacktNasenWombi
OfficeBrahzz
Profile Joined May 2013
121 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#422
On June 03 2013 03:54 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:52 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
I feel vipers are a horrible choice against toss. they wont get anything done with feedbacks out, even if you drag a collossi it barely does anything. vipers are ok vs terran horrible vs toss.

I think the solution needs to be mass roach+hydra, and just ~10 swarmhosts. Roach/hydra is mobile enough to actually fight and protect your outer bases, and when protoss moves his whole army to fight a base then u can reactively bring swarmhosts there and fight ball vs ball.

Sure 200food roach/hydra still dies to 200food protoss ball, but its your best hope because u can remax 200food roaches again in 25 seconds and just keep fighting a attrition war. basically as the big battle is happening you select larva and press R, and your roaches rebuild as your army dies, then in the 25 second battle hopefully a second round of roaches arrives also u get another spawn of locusts


*facepalm* did you watch the game on Neo Planet S?


without the vipers with more roaches instead snute woulda still won. it was 200food vs like 145 so what u pulled some collossi into hydras lol. when the protoss is 190+ food the pulls accomplish nothing and vipers just get zapped by feedback

vipers arent that useful PvZ. I dont think they belong in a 200food zerg army vs a 200food protoss. they are ok in TvZ tho. Just feedback owns them too much
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#423
Snute doing his best Ret impersonation
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Kinon
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania207 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#424
I was rooting for Snute, but if he goes for this stupid turtle style I hope he loses.
408xParadox
Profile Joined December 2011
United States140 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#425
On June 03 2013 03:54 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:50 408xParadox wrote:
On June 03 2013 03:44 LimitSEA wrote:
On June 03 2013 03:42 408xParadox wrote:
A-move = Alicia move = Hide with void rays and colossi until maxed then Alicia move

Did you even watch that game?


Ya free units via the swarm host attacking an a move army, basically WOL z v p all over again. I don't consider warping in a few dts on your side of the map and attacking a random hatch building in the corner "harassment".


Yea you definitely have an understanding of PvZ. (sarcasm) It's pretty evident you don't actually understand how good this matchup is, you should go back to your hellbat drops.


haha, at least hellbat drops require micro. All toss has to do is press z 4 times next to a pylon IN THEIR BASE and then send them across the map, no micro, and they don't have to pay attention. Compare that to a hellbat drop where they have to micro the hellbats by picking them up and then dropping over the drones that are running away, so yes zealot harass is not impressive.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#426
Ok 20 infestors. I will admit this game is like WoL PvZ. But that's definitely the Daybreak effect. This map needs to be buried forever.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
June 02 2013 18:58 GMT
#427
"AHW LOAL"
yo
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
June 02 2013 18:59 GMT
#428
PvZ is such a shitfeast in HotS still. I wish Zerg would have got an interestign unit not another siege unit.
Fries
Profile Joined August 2010
United States124 Posts
June 02 2013 18:59 GMT
#429
Why do zerg seem to love wasting so much energy on infested terrans? Is it because they feel like there's nothing else they can cast? Snute's hardly the only one i see do it, but often times they seem to burn a full mana infestor on either way too many infested terrans or the enemy army just easily gets out of range.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 19:01:02
June 02 2013 18:59 GMT
#430
On June 03 2013 03:58 Wingblade wrote:
Ok 20 infestors. I will admit this game is like WoL PvZ. But that's definitely the Daybreak effect. This map needs to be buried forever.


Yep, definitely.

On June 03 2013 03:59 MuseMike wrote:
PvZ is such a shitfeast in HotS still. I wish Zerg would have got an interestign unit not another siege unit.


Its the turtling effect that Daybreak creates. Not HOTS.

I only see this kind of games on Daybreak since hots came out.
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
June 02 2013 18:59 GMT
#431
not looking good for Alicia, Infestor + free units count is too high now
badog
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11081 Posts
June 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#432
Alicia has a lot of sentries. Wonder how he'll use em.

Maybe not enough air.

Then again it seems like toss is always too low on air.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
June 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#433
On June 03 2013 03:58 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:54 Wingblade wrote:
On June 03 2013 03:52 OfficeBrahzz wrote:
I feel vipers are a horrible choice against toss. they wont get anything done with feedbacks out, even if you drag a collossi it barely does anything. vipers are ok vs terran horrible vs toss.

I think the solution needs to be mass roach+hydra, and just ~10 swarmhosts. Roach/hydra is mobile enough to actually fight and protect your outer bases, and when protoss moves his whole army to fight a base then u can reactively bring swarmhosts there and fight ball vs ball.

Sure 200food roach/hydra still dies to 200food protoss ball, but its your best hope because u can remax 200food roaches again in 25 seconds and just keep fighting a attrition war. basically as the big battle is happening you select larva and press R, and your roaches rebuild as your army dies, then in the 25 second battle hopefully a second round of roaches arrives also u get another spawn of locusts


*facepalm* did you watch the game on Neo Planet S?


without the vipers with more roaches instead snute woulda still won. it was 200food vs like 145 so what u pulled some collossi into hydras lol. when the protoss is 190+ food the pulls accomplish nothing and vipers just get zapped by feedback

vipers arent that useful PvZ. I dont think they belong in a 200food zerg army vs a 200food protoss. they are ok in TvZ tho. Just feedback owns them too much


Lol you actually think pure roach/hydra would have beaten that number of colossi up a ramp. There's no point in even attempting to debate someone who believes that. Have a nice day. :D
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
June 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#434
Hope Alicia wins, this turtling from Snute is just plain boring and annoying.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
June 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#435
Am I the only one who's enjoying this series and these matches?
pookums
Profile Joined December 2010
151 Posts
June 02 2013 19:00 GMT
#436
This is going to be obnoxious. Snute will win a 45 minute game.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
June 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#437
On June 03 2013 04:00 Pandain wrote:
Am I the only one who's enjoying this series and these matches?

No, the matches are very tense and I love the Nyduses.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
June 02 2013 19:01 GMT
#438
On June 03 2013 03:59 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:58 Wingblade wrote:
Ok 20 infestors. I will admit this game is like WoL PvZ. But that's definitely the Daybreak effect. This map needs to be buried forever.


Yep, definitely.

Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:59 MuseMike wrote:
PvZ is such a shitfeast in HotS still. I wish Zerg would have got an interestign unit not another siege unit.


Its the turtling effect that Daybreak creates. Not HOTS.

I only see this kind of games on Daybreak since hots came out.

any map that can be split, not just daybreak.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
June 02 2013 19:02 GMT
#439
I want to see Storm drops on the Swarm hosts.
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 02 2013 19:02 GMT
#440
On June 03 2013 04:00 Pandain wrote:
Am I the only one who's enjoying this series and these matches?

I'm enjoying it a lot. :O I've liked all the games so far.
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