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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
June 01 2013 17:39 GMT
#261
On June 02 2013 02:38 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:35 opterown wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:34 teddyoojo wrote:
u ppl seem to think moonglade was far ahead?

he was

he traded alot of army for workers, while leaving ryung on 3 orbitals and a much bigger army which allowed ryung to put alot of pressure on moonglade what forced moonglade to waste alot of units to keep his forth which he needed because he fucked up and lost his third and alot of workers from 1 drop. if he didnt lose his third or drones he wouldve won.
also after he defended the aggression on his forth, he was far ahead. but before that he wasnt really far ahead

He had his 5th base down before Ryung got 30 workers, that's a solid economic advantage and he had the 20 army supply lead anyways
¯\_(シ)_/¯
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
June 01 2013 17:39 GMT
#262
On June 02 2013 02:37 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:37 hitpoint wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:35 Tppz! wrote:
that was moonglades game to loose. sadly he did loose.


What did he loose?


HIs play was not tight.


Yeah! tighten up Moonglade!
"Right on" - Morrow
KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
June 01 2013 17:39 GMT
#263
One of the worst moves was when Moonglade sent his entire ultra/bane/ling ground army to deal with 1 drop at his third, while sending his mutas to do some harass on Ryung's third, Ryung just pushed Moonglade's fourth and killed it off right away.

I always cringe when I see pro zergs not splitting their army. All you really need to deal with a drop is like maybe 12~15 lings and a couple of banelings. Don't need to commit your entire army...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 01 2013 17:40 GMT
#264
Moonglade sends out the kangaroo.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
June 01 2013 17:40 GMT
#265
On June 02 2013 02:38 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:35 opterown wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:34 teddyoojo wrote:
u ppl seem to think moonglade was far ahead?

he was

he traded alot of army for workers, while leaving ryung on 3 orbitals and a much bigger army which allowed ryung to put alot of pressure on moonglade what forced moonglade to waste alot of units to keep his forth which he needed because he fucked up and lost his third and alot of workers from 1 drop. if he didnt lose his third or drones he wouldve won.
also after he defended the aggression on his forth, he was far ahead. but before that he wasnt really far ahead

nono after the big runby it aws 66 to 18 workers and glade was also up in army supply
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 01 2013 17:40 GMT
#266
On June 02 2013 02:37 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Well Moonglade had that game.. if he had attacked the third it would have been over :/

A lot of people say that, but I really doubt he could spare units without loosing his 4th. I mean the rines were 3-3 vs 2-2, so sling runby wont really do well against a few rines.

Imo he lost the game on drop defense, not on lack of runbys.
ronpaul012
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
June 01 2013 17:41 GMT
#267
On June 02 2013 02:38 govie wrote:
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On June 02 2013 02:35 FinBenton wrote:
Moonglade just couldnt deal with drop play, like any of it, every single drop killed a base or mineral line and moonglades much superior army always in a wrong place TT


not really. I think he underestimated the armysize of ryung after that scv-slaughter. He wanted to tech fast to ultras to seal the win, but ruyngs army was still very large. There wasnt much he could do different except using the mutas for drops and the groundarmy for defence.

After the slaughter of scv's he was behind in armysupply alot.


Eh, thats debatable. I think its more about the 4th base on that map. He can't allow Ryung to get too comfy up the ramp, because he'll slowly push down/above the mineral line and deny everything. I think army's were even but marine/widow mines just trade really well in that high ground position.
I'm a gooner.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#268
Whoa, Ryung played in 8 of 9 Code S seasons until this season.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Torrnado
Profile Joined September 2010
United States36 Posts
June 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#269
really thought MLG would step it up for finals...
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
June 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#270
So far it seems just like a normal production.. =/
"Right on" - Morrow
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
June 01 2013 17:42 GMT
#271
3 Axiom players, Snute and Moonglade for the 5 Season Finals spots please. Put HerO as a backup.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#272
On June 02 2013 02:26 Whatson wrote:
This is over already, the casters are just trying to hype


sorta deserved a quote on that one!
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
June 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#273
Moonglade inspired by the gsl finals. All-ins incoming

Actually hope he does all-in a couple of times
My wife for hire! - Zealot
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
June 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#274
This commentary is so redundant... we know who they've played previously
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
June 01 2013 17:43 GMT
#275
On June 02 2013 02:41 ronpaul012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:38 govie wrote:
On June 02 2013 02:35 FinBenton wrote:
Moonglade just couldnt deal with drop play, like any of it, every single drop killed a base or mineral line and moonglades much superior army always in a wrong place TT


not really. I think he underestimated the armysize of ryung after that scv-slaughter. He wanted to tech fast to ultras to seal the win, but ruyngs army was still very large. There wasnt much he could do different except using the mutas for drops and the groundarmy for defence.

After the slaughter of scv's he was behind in armysupply alot.


Eh, thats debatable. I think its more about the 4th base on that map. He can't allow Ryung to get too comfy up the ramp, because he'll slowly push down/above the mineral line and deny everything. I think army's were even but marine/widow mines just trade really well in that high ground position.


As soon he got the third back, he didn't need the fourth against an opponent that lost so many workers, better just sacrificing it. I guess if anything, he overestimated Ryung's economy after his bust.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
June 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#276
Blue Flame? Is this 2011 already?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
June 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#277
On June 02 2013 02:42 AgentW wrote:
Whoa, Ryung played in 8 of 9 Code S seasons until this season.

He was in Code A though, when he switched regions. He fell down last season.
skiersteve
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom268 Posts
June 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#278
not seen two fac blue flame for a while <3 a lot of queens thou
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#279
On June 02 2013 02:43 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 02:26 Whatson wrote:
This is over already, the casters are just trying to hype


sorta deserved a quote on that one!

to be fair i didn't think ryung would come back from this , moonglade proved me wrong
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
June 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#280
On June 02 2013 02:42 AgentW wrote:
Whoa, Ryung played in 8 of 9 Code S seasons until this season.

there are a fair few players with more impressive runs than that though
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