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[WCS AM] Finals Day 1 Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 105

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Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
June 02 2013 13:14 GMT
#2081
On June 02 2013 18:24 PerryHooter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



I think some europeans suffer from some sort of inferiority complex towards the US. Well, I guess that's not really the word I'm looking for, maybe jealousy is a more accurate term. Either way, that's why they like to rub it in that US is a little behind when it comes to SC2. It's just a bunch of kids anyway. I hope this might be somewhat comforting.


Yeah, it really sucks having universal healthcare :|
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 13:52:39
June 02 2013 13:52 GMT
#2082
can someone please make the thread for day 2? thanks!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18758467
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 02 2013 14:57 GMT
#2083
I just can't stay up long enough. Sorry man.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 02 2013 15:11 GMT
#2084
Going to bed in an hour; can't
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 02 2013 15:11 GMT
#2085
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better
AdministratorBreak the chains
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 02 2013 15:17 GMT
#2086
On June 03 2013 00:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better


Personality, apparently
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
June 02 2013 15:21 GMT
#2087
On June 03 2013 00:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better


Dortmund vs Bayern every game gets boring as well.

also you want to see how your best Players compete vs the best of other continents which means 5 (6) koreans, 5 EU and 5 from NA at the finals. right now it seems like there will be 3 (gl to snute) non koreans at the GLOBAL final.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 02 2013 15:28 GMT
#2088
On June 03 2013 00:21 furo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 00:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better


Dortmund vs Bayern every game gets boring as well.

also you want to see how your best Players compete vs the best of other continents which means 5 (6) koreans, 5 EU and 5 from NA at the finals. right now it seems like there will be 3 (gl to snute) non koreans at the GLOBAL final.


If "Code B Koreans" can take over other continents how do you think they will fare at the Season and Global finals?

I say let them battle with these guys until they get better and more competitive before we ask for a real Global Finals that won't be a farce (WCG trololol)
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
LastLordofCastamere
Profile Joined February 2011
288 Posts
June 02 2013 15:33 GMT
#2089
On June 03 2013 00:21 furo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 00:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better


Dortmund vs Bayern every game gets boring as well.

also you want to see how your best Players compete vs the best of other continents which means 5 (6) koreans, 5 EU and 5 from NA at the finals. right now it seems like there will be 3 (gl to snute) non koreans at the GLOBAL final.



We had it at last year's wcs finals, It led to a final of an inferior quality and most of the foreigners were eliminated by the first Korean they met anyway.
"And who are you", the proud lord said "That I must bow so low?"
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
June 02 2013 15:36 GMT
#2090
Lol Crank 0-6....poor guy!
Dating thread on TL LUL
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
June 02 2013 15:42 GMT
#2091
On June 03 2013 00:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 00:21 furo wrote:
On June 03 2013 00:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better


Dortmund vs Bayern every game gets boring as well.

also you want to see how your best Players compete vs the best of other continents which means 5 (6) koreans, 5 EU and 5 from NA at the finals. right now it seems like there will be 3 (gl to snute) non koreans at the GLOBAL final.



We had it at last year's wcs finals, It led to a final of an inferior quality and most of the foreigners were eliminated by the first Korean they met anyway.


Well herO and RorO both bombed out of the group stages. Then Sen beat Curious AND HerO. So it wasn't sooo bad
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 02 2013 15:44 GMT
#2092
Day 2: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=415571
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
June 02 2013 15:56 GMT
#2093
On June 03 2013 00:36 SoSexy wrote:
Lol Crank 0-6....poor guy!

hyunghaemwon!
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 16:04:15
June 02 2013 16:02 GMT
#2094
On June 03 2013 00:33 LastLordofCastamere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 00:21 furo wrote:
On June 03 2013 00:11 Zealously wrote:
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

I do not understand how inferior games would have made the tournament better


Dortmund vs Bayern every game gets boring as well.

also you want to see how your best Players compete vs the best of other continents which means 5 (6) koreans, 5 EU and 5 from NA at the finals. right now it seems like there will be 3 (gl to snute) non koreans at the GLOBAL final.



We had it at last year's wcs finals, It led to a final of an inferior quality and most of the foreigners were eliminated by the first Korean they met anyway.


so what, i enjoyed the Event.

i will not enjoy gsl code S light

i liked the idea of local qualifiers for an international Event. sort of a global Championship.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 18:18:34
June 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#2095
On June 02 2013 09:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Aw man, stargates every game. tt1


u called
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 02 2013 18:23 GMT
#2096
On June 03 2013 03:17 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 09:36 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Aw man, stargates every game. tt1


u called


I knew I would be the winner picking you in the summoning game (but what took you so long?). gg
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
June 02 2013 22:15 GMT
#2097
woke up late
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
June 02 2013 22:41 GMT
#2098
Some of the arguments against a region lock seem so illogical to me.

"We want to watch the best players compete with the best players" - Well then why not watch any other tournament in the world then? Or better yet just watch the GSL. There is never a shortage of competitions where Koreans play Non-Koreans. Also our winners will eventually play their winners in the finals.

"Viewership" - A region lock will result in more viewers, period.

"Discriminatory/Wrong to block koreans" - A region lock isn't to block out koreans, its just locking the regions. The Olympics do the same thing without issue.

WCS could've been amazing, complete WCS seasons to determine the best players in each region, followed by a showdown of the 3 teams in Korea. The koreans would win yes but the showdown would be fun to watch.
Instead we have GSL, a B-Level korean tournament called "WSC NA" for some reason, and a finals between the A-Level koreans and the B-Level Koreans that no one will be interested in.

I don't know any other way to describe how it is set up now, its just dumb. Dumb and boring.
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