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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 02 2013 01:37 GMT
#2061
On June 02 2013 10:32 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 10:30 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:27 ShowTheLights wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:21 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:18 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:16 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:16 stuchiu wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:15 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[quote]
but proleague starts soon


but It's EG-TL without hero, It's a walkover.


Yo, Acer thought the same when they played K3 without the brothers.


I thought K3 disbanded, are you telling me they won with 3 players?


Yes: Socke and vipro took out Acer. 2on5.


Sometimes seeing MMA as he is now makes me want to drink until I forget about the past 12 months.


Maybe he can win WCS EU season 2, he's at least as good as Mvp right?

actually probably not


not even close.


You know, for a guy who has MMA in his signature, you sure hate on him a lot.

Then again, I can definitely relate to your frustration.


-.- yeah i need to cut the negativity

just having ur sc2 ID as MMAmaZinGG and never getting results is frustrating


One day I'm going to fly over to Korea, find you, and together we'll get so wasted that we'll forget that 2012 ever happened.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
June 02 2013 02:07 GMT
#2062
On June 02 2013 10:37 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 10:32 ShowTheLights wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:30 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:27 ShowTheLights wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:21 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:18 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:16 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:16 stuchiu wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:15 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

but It's EG-TL without hero, It's a walkover.


Yo, Acer thought the same when they played K3 without the brothers.


I thought K3 disbanded, are you telling me they won with 3 players?


Yes: Socke and vipro took out Acer. 2on5.


Sometimes seeing MMA as he is now makes me want to drink until I forget about the past 12 months.


Maybe he can win WCS EU season 2, he's at least as good as Mvp right?

actually probably not


not even close.


You know, for a guy who has MMA in his signature, you sure hate on him a lot.

Then again, I can definitely relate to your frustration.


-.- yeah i need to cut the negativity

just having ur sc2 ID as MMAmaZinGG and never getting results is frustrating


One day I'm going to fly over to Korea, find you, and together we'll get so wasted that we'll forget that 2012 ever happened.

Well Soulkey said in his post-finals victory interview that he needed to thank MMA a lot (even more than Flash!) for practicing with him so I'm hoping that means he's getting up there again
¯\_(シ)_/¯
MyrM
Profile Joined June 2012
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 04:31:00
June 02 2013 04:11 GMT
#2063
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 02 2013 04:13 GMT
#2064
On June 02 2013 11:07 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 10:37 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:32 ShowTheLights wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:30 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:27 ShowTheLights wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:21 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:18 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:17 stuchiu wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:16 Dodgin wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:16 stuchiu wrote:
[quote]

Yo, Acer thought the same when they played K3 without the brothers.


I thought K3 disbanded, are you telling me they won with 3 players?


Yes: Socke and vipro took out Acer. 2on5.


Sometimes seeing MMA as he is now makes me want to drink until I forget about the past 12 months.


Maybe he can win WCS EU season 2, he's at least as good as Mvp right?

actually probably not


not even close.


You know, for a guy who has MMA in his signature, you sure hate on him a lot.

Then again, I can definitely relate to your frustration.


-.- yeah i need to cut the negativity

just having ur sc2 ID as MMAmaZinGG and never getting results is frustrating


One day I'm going to fly over to Korea, find you, and together we'll get so wasted that we'll forget that 2012 ever happened.

Well Soulkey said in his post-finals victory interview that he needed to thank MMA a lot (even more than Flash!) for practicing with him so I'm hoping that means he's getting up there again


I would have loved to see MMA join Woongjin Stars actually. He's actually got a lot of friends on the team, such as Zero, Ryu Won, etc. and being surrounded by amazing players might have helped him get back in shape.

But then we'd probably see a lot less of MMA though :\
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 06:10:52
June 02 2013 06:10 GMT
#2065
wrong thread
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 06:43:56
June 02 2013 06:43 GMT
#2066
On June 02 2013 10:35 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 10:23 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:20 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hope to God that Snute beats Alicia, I'm so tired of his void ray centric play winning I could scream... Plus, that would be 3 Liquid players in the Korean world finals!

Psyched for tomorrow's games. Go Snute and Hero, Liquid fighting!


We have way too many Zergs in the Season finals already (3 from EU, 1 from AM, and 4 from KR), and only 1 Protoss. And ZvZ just annoys me.


That bodes well for Innovation to take it all.

Assuming he can work out a build midway between extreme greed and double proxies.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
June 02 2013 06:43 GMT
#2067
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz
pro toez
ARze
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia45 Posts
June 02 2013 06:55 GMT
#2068
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



Nah, i think you're just being overly sensitive to " Twitch Chat Trolls"
MyrM
Profile Joined June 2012
United States10 Posts
June 02 2013 07:33 GMT
#2069
On June 02 2013 15:55 ARze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



Nah, i think you're just being overly sensitive to " Twitch Chat Trolls"


Nah, I think you're missing the point. The Twitch chat trolls are a large portion of the fans. There aren't just a few trolls out there, there are many. Their mentality ruins the potential of E-Sports.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
June 02 2013 07:43 GMT
#2070
On June 02 2013 15:43 Littlesheep wrote:
WCS AM couldve been amazing with a region lock.

This B-Level korean tourny is ZZZzzZZZZzz

D-level Americans would be better than B-level Koreans?
HOLY CHECK!
PerryHooter
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden268 Posts
June 02 2013 09:24 GMT
#2071
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



I think some europeans suffer from some sort of inferiority complex towards the US. Well, I guess that's not really the word I'm looking for, maybe jealousy is a more accurate term. Either way, that's why they like to rub it in that US is a little behind when it comes to SC2. It's just a bunch of kids anyway. I hope this might be somewhat comforting.
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt"
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
June 02 2013 09:32 GMT
#2072
Snute will have a really hard time against Alicia, but he might be able to do it. Liquid fighting ~.~

On June 02 2013 10:26 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 10:23 Bagration wrote:
On June 02 2013 10:20 Jampackedeon wrote:
I hope to God that Snute beats Alicia, I'm so tired of his void ray centric play winning I could scream... Plus, that would be 3 Liquid players in the Korean world finals!

Psyched for tomorrow's games. Go Snute and Hero, Liquid fighting!


We have way too many Zergs in the Season finals already (3 from EU, 1 from AM, and 4 from KR), and only 1 Protoss. And ZvZ just annoys me.

Still better then more Protoss.

For me ideally there would be 60% Terran, 30% Zerg and 10% Toss with a Korean to foreigner ratio of 2:1.

If the SC2 gods grant me this wish I would be very happy

Urrgh. Can't we just all wish for 33% T, 33% P, 33% Z (and 1% rnd ), because, you know, there are fans of the other races too, and they like to see their favorites play every once in a while, too? Why take a piss on P when we are lieing on the floor already?
Get off my lawn, young punks
p4ndemic
Profile Joined November 2011
Norway5 Posts
June 02 2013 10:35 GMT
#2073
I think Snute got this

     (1631) Snute  0-0  Alicia (1519)    
-----------------------------------------
16.64% 3-0 0-3 9.11%
22.47% 3-1 1-3 15.03%
20.22% 3-2 2-3 16.54%
-----------------------------------------
59.33% 40.67%

Median outcome: Snute 3-2 Alicia
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
June 02 2013 10:41 GMT
#2074
Haha, Rotti's face when Ben said 'first round is on on Rotti'.
maddogmcgee
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia105 Posts
June 02 2013 10:43 GMT
#2075
ARze I agree that Americans are overly hated upon these days BUT, as an Aussie, I find it really gets under my skin when some Americans suggest banning anyone who isn't an American from WCS America, without regard for the fact that most of the world does not have its own league to compete in. What would be their reaction if WCS America was changed to WCS China due to an influx of new players in China? Due to their history and geography, Americans seem to me to be much more inward looking than Europe etc. Maybe this is partially the cause of the American bashing?......or maybe the trolls are all French
and he whispered, never more
MyrM
Profile Joined June 2012
United States10 Posts
June 02 2013 10:52 GMT
#2076
On June 02 2013 18:24 PerryHooter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



I think some europeans suffer from some sort of inferiority complex towards the US. Well, I guess that's not really the word I'm looking for, maybe jealousy is a more accurate term. Either way, that's why they like to rub it in that US is a little behind when it comes to SC2. It's just a bunch of kids anyway. I hope this might be somewhat comforting.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
MyrM
Profile Joined June 2012
United States10 Posts
June 02 2013 10:53 GMT
#2077
On June 02 2013 18:24 PerryHooter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



I think some europeans suffer from some sort of inferiority complex towards the US. Well, I guess that's not really the word I'm looking for, maybe jealousy is a more accurate term. Either way, that's why they like to rub it in that US is a little behind when it comes to SC2. It's just a bunch of kids anyway. I hope this might be somewhat comforting.


Thank you for an intelligent response. I don't, however, understand the inferiority complex towards the US because I wasn't born to do so. I cannot and will never understand it. It's not that I'm biased or have hatred. I have pride for my country that is all. I was born here and I have my own perspectives, however, I'm not not blind to the stupidity and arrogance of my own countrymen.

What's best is that I'm nearly 100% Northern European! My last name can be traced back to 12th century England and on my mother's side, I'm Swedish too! That's only what I know of. Dutch, German, Belgian, Danish...I am all mixtures(blue eyes ofc.)

Maybe that's why I'm sane.. (quickly hops on a train back to Europe) Oh yea...might need a plane..derp..
I love the smell of napalm in the morning!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
June 02 2013 10:56 GMT
#2078
On June 02 2013 16:33 MyrM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 15:55 ARze wrote:
On June 02 2013 13:11 MyrM wrote:
I've enjoyed WCS AM for the most part and I'm excited to see the upcoming semis and final. What I didn't enjoy is all the hate and BS spammed over and over in the live chat. "USA USA USA" was the most annoying whether spammed by Americans or trolls. I also disliked the fans(most often Europeans) spamming that Americans have no talent and they really tried to rub it in hard with the fact that no NA player will be in the season 1 finals. Why so much hate?

I hate to break it to you Europeans, but the same will be true for WCS Europe in the near future. There was more Koreans invited to WCS AM than WCS EU and 3x more notable Koreans in the AM qualifiers as opposed to the Euro qualifiers. Code A GSL players will continue to flood all of WCS as the Proleague players claim WCS KR and the rest of the talented Korean players market themselves overseas. Eventually, it will be exiled WoL code S players dominating the foreign WCS markets with 1 or 2 foreign players in the season finals. If you even expect a foreigner in the world championship then you are only dreaming.

The USA is so popular to hate these days for many reasons... most of which I don't understand. I love all the EU players, I cheer for them most of the time. I lived in Europe for a few years and I really hope that they weren't hating me behind their smiles. I really doubt they did. The best time of my life was spent in Europe and if I could go back I'd do so in a heartbeat.

The only thing I ask is that everyone tones down the hate. It seems that most of the NA scene cheers for the EU players whilst the EU scene likes to spat on the AM players. You are more than welcome to dislike the USA or The Americas, but please don't hate our players.. they are trying their hardest to compete with the best of the world and it's an uphill battle.



Nah, i think you're just being overly sensitive to " Twitch Chat Trolls"


Nah, I think you're missing the point. The Twitch chat trolls are a large portion of the fans. There aren't just a few trolls out there, there are many. Their mentality ruins the potential of E-Sports.



Do you have anything to base your facts or "majority of the community", otherwise i could say people on teamliquid/reddit are the majority of the community, and i highly doubt we have such a high % of trolls.

You just read the twitch chat, probably got frustrated and answered there trying to have a discussion. You didn´t get it, because twitch chat... is just that, some place where people take a dump.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 02 2013 12:27 GMT
#2079
sad for glade, but gratz to snute!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Scumi
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany108 Posts
June 02 2013 12:58 GMT
#2080
On June 02 2013 19:35 p4ndemic wrote:
I think Snute got this

     (1631) Snute  0-0  Alicia (1519)    
-----------------------------------------
16.64% 3-0 0-3 9.11%
22.47% 3-1 1-3 15.03%
20.22% 3-2 2-3 16.54%
-----------------------------------------
59.33% 40.67%

Median outcome: Snute 3-2 Alicia
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


I could show you the ones for TLO vs Lucifron or Innovation vs Soulkey (especially after being up 3-0). But lets hope Snute pulls through.
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