• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:51
CET 06:51
KST 14:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains3Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block2GSL CK - New online series13BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block GSL CK - New online series Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games ASL21 General Discussion BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 22
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BWCL Season 64 Announcement [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1909 users

[Up/Down] Group C WCS KR 2013 Season 2 - Page 31

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 48 Next All
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
May 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#601
Zergs at least have creep to quickly move up or down a map and overlords to spot around for the warp prism.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#602
On May 30 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
You know what, I agree guys. This two year old build is overpowered which is why it's almost never done in PvT and fell out of favour rapidly after mid 2011 in PvZ.


And terran should be able to stop it without any scouting information whatsoever!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#603
Go go First. ;;
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
May 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#604
On May 30 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
You know what, I agree guys. This two year old build is overpowered which is why it's almost never done in PvT and fell out of favour rapidly after mid 2011 in PvZ.


Except that protoss didn't have nexus cannon in 2011.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 30 2013 12:26 GMT
#605
Finally a map where MKPs +1 stim timing might actually work xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
May 30 2013 12:27 GMT
#606
The crying is just unbelievable cause of one game, and ofc cause this is MKP. If this was Bang it would be - ermm, okay, he lost to timing and was unprepared
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 30 2013 12:27 GMT
#607
On May 30 2013 21:23 Vindicare605 wrote:
But yea, there's no way Protoss is getting baseline warp prism speed. The capacity for it to be abused in ways such as what we just saw will keep it as a tech requirement.

It's fine if they want to lower the cost to allow more Protoss players to use it in the late game but for the early game it'd simply be way too powerful. It wouldn't take much testing to figure that out.

Once again like so many other things in the Protoss arsenal. Forcefield prevents Protoss from having nice things.


yeh, will just encourage them to do even more 1-2 base allin builds, rather than be a fun to watch/play late game tool.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#608
On May 30 2013 21:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:24 Brett wrote:
On May 30 2013 21:23 Vindicare605 wrote:
But yea, there's no way Protoss is getting baseline warp prism speed. The capacity for it to be abused in ways such as what we just saw will keep it as a tech requirement.

It's fine if they want to lower the cost to allow more Protoss players to use it in the late game but for the early game it'd simply be way too powerful. It wouldn't take much testing to realize that.

He just lost to that build without warp prism speed... SO WHAT THE FUCK DIFFERENCE DOES THE SPEED MAKE TO THAT BUILD?????

Stop crying. God damn.


Speed would make a huge difference.

Yeah, the prism gets there 5-10 seconds earlier, and MKP's unit cycle spawns up in his FF'd main instead of having just walked down the ramp and he might even hold it without having even scouted... lol.

I give up...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#609
On May 30 2013 21:26 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 21:25 Fusilero wrote:
You know what, I agree guys. This two year old build is overpowered which is why it's almost never done in PvT and fell out of favour rapidly after mid 2011 in PvZ.


Except that protoss didn't have nexus cannon in 2011.


So if terran does fuck up like that they actually deserve to win the game by counterattacking and flying their buildings to a corner?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
May 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#610
On May 30 2013 21:27 eGoRama wrote:
The crying is just unbelievable cause of one game, and ofc cause this is MKP. If this was Bang it would be - ermm, okay, he lost to timing and was unprepared


The discussion is because of the proposed Warp Prism buff. If that wasn't on the table no one would be saying anything.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
May 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#611
Oh oh again, MKP not reading this right.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#612
On May 30 2013 21:26 KingofGods wrote:
Zergs at least have creep to quickly move up or down a map and overlords to spot around for the warp prism.

And terran has all their production in their main base where as zerg can't reinforce since a lot of their units will spawn in their natural. Pointless argument, the protoss build has been around forever. Scout or die, like a lot of other all-ins
리노크 👑
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 30 2013 12:28 GMT
#613
okay, I thought the prediction was only for the first tiebreaker round
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#614
FML he attacked the stalker with the MSC.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#615
lmao... killed his own stalker hahaha
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#616
YES MKP plz
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 12:30:01
May 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#617
phew, gogo mkp!!
Community News
TL+ Member
awesomeme
Profile Joined January 2013
Singapore15 Posts
May 30 2013 12:29 GMT
#618
Come on MKP!!!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 30 2013 12:30 GMT
#619
Well MKP is in good shape here, might of lost a few workers, but First miles behind with his expansion
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
May 30 2013 12:30 GMT
#620
First... don't lose to MKP again please ;-;
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 48 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#72
PiGStarcraft373
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft373
Nina 38
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2567
Shuttle 316
BeSt 257
Dewaltoss 129
Leta 95
ggaemo 86
Icarus 12
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K361
m0e_tv331
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King156
Other Games
summit1g10451
C9.Mang0310
Tasteless86
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1190
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH180
• practicex 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1308
• Rush1165
• Stunt433
• HappyZerGling82
Other Games
• Scarra2071
Upcoming Events
GSL
4h 9m
WardiTV Team League
6h 9m
The PondCast
1d 4h
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.