[Code S] RO8 Day 2 WCS Korea Season 1 2013 - Page 4

On May 16 2013 12:06 snakeeyez wrote:
Innovation is good, but so are other kespa players. Innovation has not proven himself yet to justify the amount of hype he gets, but yeah I mean he is playing really well. Best terran is immvp without question in terms of accomplishments in SC 2

On May 16 2013 11:47 gobbledydook wrote:


Corollary to Bomber's law:

If he does not disappoint, it will be to set up a bigger disappoint later on.

Close your eyes, kids. It won't be pretty, he's saved a lot more of disappointment potential than he usually does.

On May 16 2013 12:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:


Maybe he's going for the big one.

3-0 Symbol , 4-0 Bogus , 0-4 sOs ._.

or even Win gsl into retire

>_>

On May 16 2013 12:09 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:


Maybe he's going for the big one.

3-0 Symbol , 4-0 Bogus , 0-4 sOs ._.

or even Win gsl into retire

>_>

On May 16 2013 12:13 Dodgin wrote:


Wins GSL > switches to NA?

On May 16 2013 12:08 sAsImre wrote:


well sadly Mvp was the best sometimes ago. Nowadays there is one Terran really standing up and it's bogus, then you've the crowd of the pretenders (among whom Flash is probably the most overrated right now)

On May 16 2013 12:08 sAsImre wrote:


well sadly Mvp was the best sometimes ago. Nowadays there is one Terran really standing up and it's bogus, then you've the crowd of the pretenders (among whom Flash is probably the most overrated right now)

On May 16 2013 12:34 LighT. wrote:

How the hell is Flash the most overrated?
No one is calling him the best player..
Flash is on the same tier as Innovation. They're the only 2 terrans who stands above the rest, although I dont think ive seen enough bomber games to make a fair evaluation for him
Flash has superior TvT, Innovation has superior TvZ, they're equally scary in TvP.

On May 16 2013 12:31 tozi wrote:

I definitely think Innovation is by far the most overrated.

Flash is only overrated by his super avid fans but the general consensus is that he is the one of the best terrans in the world, probably second best, but has some work to do in terms of game sense.

Innovation is considered by almost everybody the best sc2 player currently with some people (tasteless) saying the "best player to ever touch an RTS).

I would think realistically, he has become the best player with his results in GSL, making it out of the group of death... but has not actually played to his hype.
If you watch his games, he is good, but there are also a lot of flaws. He is currently on a losing streak in TVZ and he says himself that Flash's TVZ is stronger than his.

Of course, I think that Innovation is one of the best if not the best, but he is for sure the most over-hyped player.

Yes, yes, you can quote me after Innovation wins GSL saying im a dumb fuck, but if it gets there, I will admit he is definitely the best player in the world ATM. However, I will not regret what I said here based on the current situation.

On May 16 2013 12:37 [OGN]Remmy wrote:


As we can see from Flash's yesterday's match with eSF top Toss Avenge, Flash is not that very good at tvp. But his greedy macro wins the match. Maybe he's going for a new strat?

On May 16 2013 12:44 LighT. wrote:

Youre right, he has shaky ghost control and in g2 he wasnt playing that great (he acknowledged it himself in the interviews)
in his g1 vs Parting or was it g2..with the tempest, he also looked pretty lost with ghosts but he didnt know how to exatly combat a composition of that sort. but that's a small sample size.
Comparing it to his games overall; Flash is excellent at TvP. Avenge surprised me though, he's a lot better than what people give him credit for, (well outside of the ST fans)

Similarily you can make the argument, that Innovation's TvT is doggone awful because he was absolutely looking awful vs TurN in his Samsung Khan match, but looking at the overall assessment, you could see that's an outlier.

On May 16 2013 12:40 LighT. wrote:

Since when is anything tasteless says relevant? Anything, obviously he was exaggerating on the "best player to ever touch an RTS" if he really did say that.
But yes, innovation is somewhat overrated. He is a amongst the most top-tier crop of players however not the best. 0 credential. This "top player" thing has to be put on hold. There isnt a true dominant player at the moment. in BW, you had oov and Flash, with that title and had a boatload of trophies to make up for it. in WoL you had MVP and for a very brief time MMA/DRG and had trophies to make up for it, no one really has credentials up to this point outside of a view team player victories and what not.