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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 17 2013 03:50 GMT
#2021
--- Nuked ---
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 17 2013 03:53 GMT
#2022
On May 17 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 12:35 slowbacontron wrote:
The amount of hate Symbol got here was simply staggering! It was amazing to see the anti-Hellbat whiners clam up...in order to make room for every single whiner that could possibly fit into the thread rage on about roach-bane all-ins. Give him some credit guys, did he or did he not advance to the semis today? I don't know what he has in store for Innovation, nor how it will fare against Innovation's superb level of play. I can only congratulate him and wish him luck in the semifinals!

As just one more note, just because one may not like Symbol's playstyle now wouldn't be a reason to go about denouncing his career, which has been relatively successful so far. Remember that engagement vs. Parting? Ultras, banes, and infestors absolutely annihilating what was once a strong Protoss army.

I don;t see how anyone can blame Symbol for playing how he did.

That is like blaming Mvp for all inning Zergs when Broodlord/Infestor was still a thing.


MVP got a lot of trash talk from the LR during his GSL Season 2 2012 win for his TvP play, which is probably a better example.

I like the people who go "I hate players that do whatever it takes to win! Why don't they play in the style that my favourite player would always beat them in!?!?!"
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
HystericaLaughter
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia720 Posts
May 17 2013 04:02 GMT
#2023
Just watched the vods for these games. Innovation is just.... disgusting. They may as well given him the series after that first game, textbook TvZ.

And Symbol vs. Bomber was less entertaining. I could read Bombers mind, at the start of every game he thought to himself 'ok, there is no way he'll all-in me AGAIN!' - proceeds to die to all-in
My wife for hire! - Zealot
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 17 2013 04:05 GMT
#2024
On May 17 2013 04:01 ChApFoU wrote:
InnoVation going Iloveoov mode vs zerg. Who will be the next July ? :p

July --> EffOrt --> Life
All hyper aggressive ling styles.
July wasnt anything too special though.
The question is..who's the next he-who-must-not-be-named.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 04:16:18
May 17 2013 04:15 GMT
#2025
On May 17 2013 12:53 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 17 2013 12:35 slowbacontron wrote:
The amount of hate Symbol got here was simply staggering! It was amazing to see the anti-Hellbat whiners clam up...in order to make room for every single whiner that could possibly fit into the thread rage on about roach-bane all-ins. Give him some credit guys, did he or did he not advance to the semis today? I don't know what he has in store for Innovation, nor how it will fare against Innovation's superb level of play. I can only congratulate him and wish him luck in the semifinals!

As just one more note, just because one may not like Symbol's playstyle now wouldn't be a reason to go about denouncing his career, which has been relatively successful so far. Remember that engagement vs. Parting? Ultras, banes, and infestors absolutely annihilating what was once a strong Protoss army.

I don;t see how anyone can blame Symbol for playing how he did.

That is like blaming Mvp for all inning Zergs when Broodlord/Infestor was still a thing.


MVP got a lot of trash talk from the LR during his GSL Season 2 2012 win for his TvP play, which is probably a better example.

I like the people who go "I hate players that do whatever it takes to win! Why don't they play in the style that my favourite player would always beat them in!?!?!"


Symbol hasn't won anything or shown impressive long-game play like Mvp. So, Symbol hasn't earned the right to all-in like Mvp has.

Life is another example of a player, like Mvp, who could cheese a series and get no hate for it.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
May 17 2013 04:23 GMT
#2026
On May 17 2013 13:15 Popkiller wrote:
Symbol hasn't won anything or shown impressive long-game play like Mvp. So, Symbol hasn't earned the right to all-in like Mvp has.


Lol, thanks for letting us know people need to earn the right to all-in. Last time I checked this was a strategy game. The goal is to win, not to ask for permission to.
STX Fighting!
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 17 2013 04:24 GMT
#2027
On May 17 2013 13:15 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 12:53 bittman wrote:
On May 17 2013 12:50 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 17 2013 12:35 slowbacontron wrote:
The amount of hate Symbol got here was simply staggering! It was amazing to see the anti-Hellbat whiners clam up...in order to make room for every single whiner that could possibly fit into the thread rage on about roach-bane all-ins. Give him some credit guys, did he or did he not advance to the semis today? I don't know what he has in store for Innovation, nor how it will fare against Innovation's superb level of play. I can only congratulate him and wish him luck in the semifinals!

As just one more note, just because one may not like Symbol's playstyle now wouldn't be a reason to go about denouncing his career, which has been relatively successful so far. Remember that engagement vs. Parting? Ultras, banes, and infestors absolutely annihilating what was once a strong Protoss army.

I don;t see how anyone can blame Symbol for playing how he did.

That is like blaming Mvp for all inning Zergs when Broodlord/Infestor was still a thing.


MVP got a lot of trash talk from the LR during his GSL Season 2 2012 win for his TvP play, which is probably a better example.

I like the people who go "I hate players that do whatever it takes to win! Why don't they play in the style that my favourite player would always beat them in!?!?!"


Symbol hasn't won anything or shown impressive long-game play like Mvp. So, Symbol hasn't earned the right to all-in like Mvp has.

Life is another example of a player, like Mvp, who could cheese a series and get no hate for it.

You need to earn a right to do an all-in?
The hell....
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 04:28:48
May 17 2013 04:26 GMT
#2028
Guys he was utilizing a certain rhetorical device
jjakji fan
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 04:50:51
May 17 2013 04:41 GMT
#2029
On May 17 2013 13:23 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 13:15 Popkiller wrote:
Symbol hasn't won anything or shown impressive long-game play like Mvp. So, Symbol hasn't earned the right to all-in like Mvp has.


Lol, thanks for letting us know people need to earn the right to all-in. Last time I checked this was a strategy game. The goal is to win, not to ask for permission to.


I'm not saying there's a right and a wrong, here. I'm giving you some insight into the minds of symbol-haters and mvp-lovers.

Take MC even... rarely the macro-oriented player, but he stuck around long enough and took in many tournament wins and showed the ability to elevate his play when necessary, so he earned the respect of the fans.

Symbol has some good tournament runs under his belt, but comparatively he is still unestablished, so people are gonna give him shit for all-inning until he has proven himself to be a true champion. Hence, earning the right.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 17 2013 09:04 GMT
#2030
These matches were stupidly onesided
The heart's eternal vow
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 17 2013 09:12 GMT
#2031
On May 17 2013 13:05 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 04:01 ChApFoU wrote:
InnoVation going Iloveoov mode vs zerg. Who will be the next July ? :p

July --> EffOrt --> Life
All hyper aggressive ling styles.
July wasnt anything too special though.
The question is..who's the next he-who-must-not-be-named.


I feel bad and left out. Don't know who is he-who-must-not-be-named, and still won't find out because he must not be named
LiquipediaWanderer
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 09:17:54
May 17 2013 09:17 GMT
#2032
On May 17 2013 18:12 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 13:05 LighT. wrote:
On May 17 2013 04:01 ChApFoU wrote:
InnoVation going Iloveoov mode vs zerg. Who will be the next July ? :p

July --> EffOrt --> Life
All hyper aggressive ling styles.
July wasnt anything too special though.
The question is..who's the next he-who-must-not-be-named.


I feel bad and left out. Don't know who is he-who-must-not-be-named, and still won't find out because he must not be named

Savior the matchfixer (and really really good zerg).
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 17 2013 09:58 GMT
#2033
On May 17 2013 18:17 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 18:12 Ragnarork wrote:
On May 17 2013 13:05 LighT. wrote:
On May 17 2013 04:01 ChApFoU wrote:
InnoVation going Iloveoov mode vs zerg. Who will be the next July ? :p

July --> EffOrt --> Life
All hyper aggressive ling styles.
July wasnt anything too special though.
The question is..who's the next he-who-must-not-be-named.


I feel bad and left out. Don't know who is he-who-must-not-be-named, and still won't find out because he must not be named

Savior the matchfixer (and really really good zerg).


Oh ok ! Yes I knew saviOr (and what he did), just didn't make the link... Thanks !
LiquipediaWanderer
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
May 17 2013 10:27 GMT
#2034
On May 17 2013 12:43 slowbacontron wrote:
How can you not find Liquid HerO's face the most beautiful thing you've ever seen, is what I would ask you LHC shell.

You can´t if once you saw Bisu.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
May 17 2013 21:10 GMT
#2035
On May 17 2013 04:45 megapants wrote:
so i watched roro vs innovation game 3 again just now and its clear that roro threw the game after taking down innovation's scvs

innovation was left with 4 hellbats and 2 medivacs after killing off all of roro's queens, leaving not only his anti-air defense bare, but his production as well. roro decided to build drones (like 15 of them) before restarting his queens and once the final attack hit his base he wasn't able to build enough units due to the damage that innovation returned, basically uncontested.

9:45 roro has 1 queen, innovation has 4 medivacs 6 hellbats
10:07 roro starts 5 drones, then 2 more drones
10:45 roro starts 4 more drones as 3 hellbats get into his natural, then 3 more drones as his drones die
12:00 roro starts 2 queens
13:20 innovation kills roro's 3rd base
14:00 roro's natural is under fire by hellbats and marauders

so yeah, roro choked and continued to build drones even after he killed off innovation's entire economy when all he needed to turn it into a win was build queens and spores first

Roro probably felt he had to get some economy going first in order to deal with innovation since innovation still had 3 CC's and superior tech that doesnt cost much gas (so the benefit of the mule is even greater). Also, a queen by itself wont do much against hellbats and a medivac. I think it was less that Roro choked and more that innovation just had a better strategy (or as some may say, a better race).
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