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On May 06 2013 16:21 pylonsalad wrote:
Terran cannot lose if they abuse the hellbat/medivac combo. Roro did the best I've seen any zerg handle those drops and he still lost 26 drones. Blizzard needs to make hellbats non-bio.
This is just wrong. RorO actually handled that very badly. Hellbat drops are devastating, but RorO just did not have the proper answer. You need spores/spines and, more importantly, a great reaction time.
The reason why RorO got rolled by mech is simply because he had to redrone and could not focus on building the correct army composition.
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So far Coke is > Pepsi, but let's see if I foretold the future and we get a Flash vs Jangbi match like the banner.
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Flash drank 2 bottles up, it's his time now !!!!
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i don't recall ever complaining about one unit being too strong. i have always felt that blizzard does a pretty good job balancing races units, etc. but i am starting to wonder if hellbat drops against zerg is too strong and that it would require too much economic sacrifices to scout and prepare with static defenses to stop.
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On May 06 2013 16:26 shelfofjustice wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 16:21 pylonsalad wrote:
Terran cannot lose if they abuse the hellbat/medivac combo. Roro did the best I've seen any zerg handle those drops and he still lost 26 drones. Blizzard needs to make hellbats non-bio. Roro played that terribly. He moved his army out to counterattack a fortified mech position which caused most of his early losses, spent a good 1000/1000 on Mutas/melee upgrades that did effectively nothing and even positioned his couple swarm hosts directly where the Terran army was pushing. His build had no cohesion and simply was not prepared to deal with mech at all.
ok thanks.
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Time for Jangbi to beat down Flash again?
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On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1
One post. Sick amount.
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On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 where the game was obviously decided by Roro not scouting what Flash is doing and losing an enormous amount of drones to mis-micro during the second wave of drops.
Edit: @kgster, your question has been answered in the thread.
Word. So bored of stupid balance questions and whine in LR threads.
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On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 where the game was obviously decided by Roro not scouting what Flash is doing and losing an enormous amount of drones to mis-micro during the second wave of drops.
Edit: @kgster, your question has been answered in the thread.
He did scout it. He did prepare for the drops. And he still could not stop 26 drones dying because hellbat/medivac is so ridiculously OP. I think the only reason more terrans don't do it every game is becuase they feel dirty doing it since it can't fail.
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I just asked because I've yet to see a pro game where a Z holds that build and wins as a result, if anyone has a vod or recommendation, I would like to see it.
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Zerg cannot beat Mech. Period.
User was warned for this post
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That's not a bad reasoning about Protoss in team leagues vs individual leagues.
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On May 06 2013 16:29 ktgster wrote:
I just asked because I've yet to see a pro game where a Z holds that build and wins as a result, if anyone has a vod or recommendation, I would like to see it.
ya i only have seen hellbat drop about 3 or so times before today in pro games and i think terran won each of these games single-handily
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On May 06 2013 16:29 Ludwigvan wrote:
Zerg cannot beat Mech. Period.
zerg fucking dominates mech
as long as they don't get wrecked by hellbats lol
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aw damn it, I missed Flash vs RorO ;;
Flash make me some monayyy
and by money I mean points
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interesting point about protoss and proxy pylons, what if pylons cost 150 mnerals and gave 12 supply?
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On May 06 2013 16:26 Entirety wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 16:21 pylonsalad wrote:
Terran cannot lose if they abuse the hellbat/medivac combo. Roro did the best I've seen any zerg handle those drops and he still lost 26 drones. Blizzard needs to make hellbats non-bio. This is just wrong. RorO actually handled that very badly. Hellbat drops are devastating, but RorO just did not have the proper answer. You need spores/spines and, more importantly, a great reaction time. The reason why RorO got rolled by mech is simply because he had to redrone and could not focus on building the correct army composition.
Don't you think it's imbalanced when a zerg has to build a spore and spine at every base, and still take massive damage if he is 3 seconds too slow running drones for the cost of 4 hellbats and 2 medivacs?
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On May 06 2013 16:28 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 One post. Sick amount.
I remember you, you make balance whiney posts about ZvT quite often.
On May 06 2013 02:23 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 02:20 YoungTyTy wrote:On May 06 2013 02:16 Nebuchad wrote:
Terran got destroyed this round, wow. Had 9 in Ro32 and only 1 so far in Ro16 (with Pro7ect still in play for potential n"2) Is that because terran is so imba like yesterday :p Depends how many hellbats they made :p Nah yesterday I didn't mean anything about balance, it was just frustrating to see no zergs advance once again, when they had so many contenders and terrans had so few. But then uzer pulled something unexpected and things got okay.
Balance whine in this thread so far:
ktgster
pylonsalad
YourHarry
Tsubbi
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On May 06 2013 16:29 pylonsalad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 where the game was obviously decided by Roro not scouting what Flash is doing and losing an enormous amount of drones to mis-micro during the second wave of drops.
Edit: @kgster, your question has been answered in the thread. He did scout it. He did prepare for the drops. And he still could not stop 26 drones dying because hellbat/medivac is so ridiculously OP. I think the only reason more terrans don't do it every game is becuase they feel dirty doing it since it can't fail.
how does one stop 30+ scvs dying when roach-bane-bust occurs? One doesn't. Does it make roach-baneling ridiculously OP? Totally, according to you. It's all about timing and how much do you cut your own economy to be able to pull the strong aggression off.
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On May 06 2013 16:32 Die4Ever wrote:
interesting point about protoss and proxy pylons, what if pylons cost 150 mnerals and gave 12 supply?
that would be horrible.
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