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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
May 06 2013 07:26 GMT
#161
On May 06 2013 16:21 pylonsalad wrote:
Terran cannot lose if they abuse the hellbat/medivac combo. Roro did the best I've seen any zerg handle those drops and he still lost 26 drones. Blizzard needs to make hellbats non-bio.


This is just wrong. RorO actually handled that very badly. Hellbat drops are devastating, but RorO just did not have the proper answer. You need spores/spines and, more importantly, a great reaction time.

The reason why RorO got rolled by mech is simply because he had to redrone and could not focus on building the correct army composition.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
May 06 2013 07:26 GMT
#162
So far Coke is > Pepsi, but let's see if I foretold the future and we get a Flash vs Jangbi match like the banner.
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[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 06 2013 07:27 GMT
#163
Flash drank 2 bottles up, it's his time now !!!!
指原莉乃 應援
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 06 2013 07:27 GMT
#164
i don't recall ever complaining about one unit being too strong. i have always felt that blizzard does a pretty good job balancing races units, etc. but i am starting to wonder if hellbat drops against zerg is too strong and that it would require too much economic sacrifices to scout and prepare with static defenses to stop.
Never!
ktgster
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada70 Posts
May 06 2013 07:27 GMT
#165
On May 06 2013 16:26 shelfofjustice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 16:21 pylonsalad wrote:
Terran cannot lose if they abuse the hellbat/medivac combo. Roro did the best I've seen any zerg handle those drops and he still lost 26 drones. Blizzard needs to make hellbats non-bio.


Roro played that terribly. He moved his army out to counterattack a fortified mech position which caused most of his early losses, spent a good 1000/1000 on Mutas/melee upgrades that did effectively nothing and even positioned his couple swarm hosts directly where the Terran army was pushing. His build had no cohesion and simply was not prepared to deal with mech at all.



ok thanks.
"Sick Handsome Nerd Baller"
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1964 Posts
May 06 2013 07:27 GMT
#166
Time for Jangbi to beat down Flash again?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12389 Posts
May 06 2013 07:28 GMT
#167
On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1


One post. Sick amount.
No will to live, no wish to die
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
May 06 2013 07:28 GMT
#168
On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 where the game was obviously decided by Roro not scouting what Flash is doing and losing an enormous amount of drones to mis-micro during the second wave of drops.

Edit: @kgster, your question has been answered in the thread.

Word. So bored of stupid balance questions and whine in LR threads.
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pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
May 06 2013 07:29 GMT
#169
On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 where the game was obviously decided by Roro not scouting what Flash is doing and losing an enormous amount of drones to mis-micro during the second wave of drops.

Edit: @kgster, your question has been answered in the thread.


He did scout it. He did prepare for the drops. And he still could not stop 26 drones dying because hellbat/medivac is so ridiculously OP. I think the only reason more terrans don't do it every game is becuase they feel dirty doing it since it can't fail.
ktgster
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada70 Posts
May 06 2013 07:29 GMT
#170
I just asked because I've yet to see a pro game where a Z holds that build and wins as a result, if anyone has a vod or recommendation, I would like to see it.
"Sick Handsome Nerd Baller"
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
May 06 2013 07:29 GMT
#171
Zerg cannot beat Mech. Period.

User was warned for this post
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
May 06 2013 07:30 GMT
#172
That's not a bad reasoning about Protoss in team leagues vs individual leagues.
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
May 06 2013 07:30 GMT
#173
On May 06 2013 16:29 ktgster wrote:
I just asked because I've yet to see a pro game where a Z holds that build and wins as a result, if anyone has a vod or recommendation, I would like to see it.


ya i only have seen hellbat drop about 3 or so times before today in pro games and i think terran won each of these games single-handily
Never!
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
May 06 2013 07:31 GMT
#174
On May 06 2013 16:29 Ludwigvan wrote:
Zerg cannot beat Mech. Period.

zerg fucking dominates mech
as long as they don't get wrecked by hellbats lol
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 06 2013 07:32 GMT
#175
aw damn it, I missed Flash vs RorO ;;

Flash make me some monayyy

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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
May 06 2013 07:32 GMT
#176
interesting point about protoss and proxy pylons, what if pylons cost 150 mnerals and gave 12 supply?
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pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 07:32:54
May 06 2013 07:32 GMT
#177
On May 06 2013 16:26 Entirety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 16:21 pylonsalad wrote:
Terran cannot lose if they abuse the hellbat/medivac combo. Roro did the best I've seen any zerg handle those drops and he still lost 26 drones. Blizzard needs to make hellbats non-bio.


This is just wrong. RorO actually handled that very badly. Hellbat drops are devastating, but RorO just did not have the proper answer. You need spores/spines and, more importantly, a great reaction time.

The reason why RorO got rolled by mech is simply because he had to redrone and could not focus on building the correct army composition.



Don't you think it's imbalanced when a zerg has to build a spore and spine at every base, and still take massive damage if he is 3 seconds too slow running drones for the cost of 4 hellbats and 2 medivacs?
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 06 2013 07:32 GMT
#178
On May 06 2013 16:28 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1


One post. Sick amount.


I remember you, you make balance whiney posts about ZvT quite often.

On May 06 2013 02:23 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 02:20 YoungTyTy wrote:
On May 06 2013 02:16 Nebuchad wrote:
Terran got destroyed this round, wow. Had 9 in Ro32 and only 1 so far in Ro16 (with Pro7ect still in play for potential n"2)

Is that because terran is so imba like yesterday :p


Depends how many hellbats they made :p

Nah yesterday I didn't mean anything about balance, it was just frustrating to see no zergs advance once again, when they had so many contenders and terrans had so few. But then uzer pulled something unexpected and things got okay.



Balance whine in this thread so far:
ktgster
pylonsalad
YourHarry
Tsubbi
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
May 06 2013 07:32 GMT
#179
On May 06 2013 16:29 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2013 16:25 Ghanburighan wrote:
The amount of balance whine when Flash beats Roro in a Bo1 where the game was obviously decided by Roro not scouting what Flash is doing and losing an enormous amount of drones to mis-micro during the second wave of drops.

Edit: @kgster, your question has been answered in the thread.


He did scout it. He did prepare for the drops. And he still could not stop 26 drones dying because hellbat/medivac is so ridiculously OP. I think the only reason more terrans don't do it every game is becuase they feel dirty doing it since it can't fail.

how does one stop 30+ scvs dying when roach-bane-bust occurs? One doesn't. Does it make roach-baneling ridiculously OP? Totally, according to you. It's all about timing and how much do you cut your own economy to be able to pull the strong aggression off.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
May 06 2013 07:33 GMT
#180
On May 06 2013 16:32 Die4Ever wrote:
interesting point about protoss and proxy pylons, what if pylons cost 150 mnerals and gave 12 supply?

that would be horrible.
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