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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 07 2013 13:20 GMT
#1881
That SH game makes me worry about the future of the mu. Sure you can go for the super late ultimate protoss army (MS, carrier, tempest, collossus, templar, void w. oracle spotter) but for the viewer it'll be the equivalent of watching a hero jungle till 25 for perfect items.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12343 Posts
May 07 2013 13:20 GMT
#1882
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.
No will to live, no wish to die
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 07 2013 13:21 GMT
#1883
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
May 07 2013 13:21 GMT
#1884
On May 07 2013 22:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sound like owning :D

I'm sure by next season they'll have 9 players in the ro8 somehow

If you count Parting then yes
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 13:21:36
May 07 2013 13:21 GMT
#1885
On May 07 2013 22:20 Scarecrow wrote:
That SH game makes me worry about the future of the mu. Sure you can go for the super late ultimate protoss army (MS, carrier, tempest, collossus, templar, void w. oracle spotter) but for the viewer it'll be the equivalent of watching a hero jungle till 25 for perfect items.


These games make me happy being a Terran ^.^
LiquipediaWanderer
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 07 2013 13:21 GMT
#1886
On May 07 2013 22:15 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:13 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:12 EpiK wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:08 YoungTyTy wrote:
Ahhh, my one dislike of the GSL style system. Roro advances 2-3 over Flying. I know he played better when it counted, but it's still unfortunate.


what's a better alternative?


Extended series

I actually like extended series, but there really is no perfect system. They all have their own faults and people can get the short stick sometimes


You already lost a match and have to win 2 more bo3 to get through your group. Thats your 'punishment' for losing the first set. Extended series continues and punishes you if you meet your opponent again. Now you have won a series and lost a series, as well as your opponent, in which world is it fair that you now have to beat him in bo7 when he has to beat you in a bo3?

CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12343 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 13:22:15
May 07 2013 13:21 GMT
#1887
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant


Pretty sure when people start these kespa wars they're refering to the elephants, no?
If not it makes even less sense.
No will to live, no wish to die
DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
May 07 2013 13:23 GMT
#1888
I don't buy into this Bogus hype (pun intended). Just don't let him get up to three bases uncontested and you're good.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
May 07 2013 13:23 GMT
#1889
On May 07 2013 22:21 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant


Pretty sure when people start these kespa wars they're refering to the elephants, no?
If not it makes even less sense.


Just to make eSF fans mad, that's the whole purpose. Sense is out of the window long time ago in TL.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 07 2013 13:25 GMT
#1890
On May 07 2013 22:23 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:21 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant


Pretty sure when people start these kespa wars they're refering to the elephants, no?
If not it makes even less sense.


Just to make eSF fans mad, that's the whole purpose. Sense is out of the window long time ago in TL.

yeah i don't think there are that many actual kespa fans, more esf baiters
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 07 2013 13:25 GMT
#1891
On May 07 2013 22:23 DeCoder wrote:
I don't buy into this Bogus hype (pun intended). Just don't let him get up to three bases uncontested and you're good.


You could say that about everyone.

And I'd say his hype is pretty justified.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 07 2013 13:26 GMT
#1892
Oh god, enough with the elephant shit... Let's move on, the game has been out for 3 years. Good players are good players.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 07 2013 13:26 GMT
#1893
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant

If he's not purebreed kespa, hes not kespa. Parting's blood is tainted by startale
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 07 2013 13:26 GMT
#1894
On May 07 2013 22:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:23 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:21 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant


Pretty sure when people start these kespa wars they're refering to the elephants, no?
If not it makes even less sense.


Just to make eSF fans mad, that's the whole purpose. Sense is out of the window long time ago in TL.

yeah i don't think there are that many actual kespa fans, more esf baiters


The point of being a "KeSPA" fan (as the organisation thing) eludes me...
LiquipediaWanderer
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 13:27:19
May 07 2013 13:27 GMT
#1895
On May 07 2013 22:26 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant

If he's not purebreed kespa, hes not kespa. Parting's blood is tainted by startale


I'd have my blood tainted by Startale any day man...
LiquipediaWanderer
heartagram
Profile Joined May 2013
178 Posts
May 07 2013 13:27 GMT
#1896
On May 07 2013 22:21 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:21 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:20 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:16 DamageControL wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:13 scr wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:10 Zeon0 wrote:
Kespa owning... 5 Kespa players in ro8 atm (if you count Parting)


yeah that really sounds like owning :D
It's 5/6...so it'll sound like it. But it will likely also be 5/8 which is less dominating.


PartinG isn't kespa, and anyway we really shouldn't care where people come from as long as they show good games... No idea why we would.

parting is kespa, he's just not an elephant


Pretty sure when people start these kespa wars they're refering to the elephants, no?
If not it makes even less sense.


I think it's just to point out that the players with stricter practice schedules and more vigorous training are performing better than the rest, and that it was absurd to not think those players would eventually surpass ESF.
BaaL`
Profile Joined May 2010
297 Posts
May 07 2013 13:27 GMT
#1897
On May 07 2013 22:15 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 22:13 Ghanburighan wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:12 EpiK wrote:
On May 07 2013 22:08 YoungTyTy wrote:
Ahhh, my one dislike of the GSL style system. Roro advances 2-3 over Flying. I know he played better when it counted, but it's still unfortunate.


what's a better alternative?


Extended series

I actually like extended series, but there really is no perfect system. They all have their own faults and people can get the short stick sometimes


Well I would say the only downside of current GSL system is that the initial match set-up matters quite a bit. If you are against the favorite, you have quite a big disadvantage. For example let's say players are 1-4, with 1 being the best etc.

Games could be:
2 > 3 score 2-0
1 > 4
1 > 2
3 > 4
3 > 2 score 2-1 (this would be the only ''upset'', but could easily go this way if 2 and 3 are not far apart)

1 and 3 advance even though 2 went 3-2 in total in their games.

This feels pretty unfair towards player 2, he did play better in their matches overall than player 3 after all. This is supposed to be compensated by player 2 losing in the winner's match, while player 3 won in the loser's match, BUT obviously winner's match should be a lot harder to win than loser's match.

Still it would also not be fair to extend the series, for example starting from 2-0 and doing a best of 5. Both players have won 1 series and lost 1 series so far, so this approach would IMO favor player 2 too much. Maybe player 2 should get a 1 map advantage only if he won 2-0 in the initial series, but that's getting a bit convoluted.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 07 2013 13:28 GMT
#1898
WCS EU RO32 Group F - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18402829
WCS AM RO32 Group B - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18434081
WCS KR Code A R2 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18511070

threads for tomorrow!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
May 07 2013 13:28 GMT
#1899
Sucky group. Goddamn idiots in Group B ruined this season!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 13:29:02
May 07 2013 13:28 GMT
#1900
On May 07 2013 22:28 Clefairy wrote:
Sucky group. Goddamn idiots in Group B ruined this season!


Wait for the GumiHo + 3 Zergs group !
This should be fun !
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