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[GSTL] PRIME vs. Ax-Acer 2013 Season 1 - Page 27

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 04 2013 06:40 GMT
#521
On May 04 2013 15:36 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 15:36 Bagration wrote:
No MMA next match? Who are they up against?


MMA isn't a top 4 axiom player so it doesn't really matter


Well, technically MMA isn't an Axiom player so yes, he isn't a top 4 Axiom player :p

But I disagree about MMA not being top 4 in Axiom-Acer. He came up really clutch against MVP, and him and Ryung are the 2 Terran heavy-hitters on the team (sorry Heart). Of course, not having him will hurt Axiom-Acer, but they will have enough players to fill the roster up. I also do want to see Alicia play more. He's looked really good in the various qualifiers, and I hope to see him kick ass in the GSTL soon.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 04 2013 06:41 GMT
#522
On May 04 2013 15:38 Dodgin wrote:
IM better beat Prime and Abuzu I can't handle any more team league disappointment


Hoping IM doesn't disappoint you in teams leagues is never a good idea it seems

Most of there players getting past the first round of code A is a little reassuring.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 04 2013 06:41 GMT
#523
On May 04 2013 15:32 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 15:31 Fionn wrote:
Gerrard: Somehow they figured out my line-up!

Gasp! You mean fielding only three Terrans with similar styles and one Protoss is not a good way of playing in a professional team league?!

But that's how StarTale plays.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 04 2013 06:42 GMT
#524
bleh i don't know what's too up with prime, their players aren't exactly bad. maru #1GM for a lot of last season, byun reaching #6 and creator reaching top10 GM as well, all with 60-65% winrate, pity they can't translate that.
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
May 04 2013 06:42 GMT
#525
Ah this GSTL is so polarized, most of the results are 4-0, 4-1. When you wonder what the result would be, pick the stronger team and place one of those in the result. Its getting boring, it looks like some teams are 50 years behind the others with skill, meta game etc.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 04 2013 06:43 GMT
#526
On May 04 2013 15:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 15:38 Dodgin wrote:
IM better beat Prime and Abuzu I can't handle any more team league disappointment


Hoping IM doesn't disappoint you in teams leagues is never a good idea it seems

Most of there players getting past the first round of code A is a little reassuring.


they always do well in GSL, that's standard. so is losing in gstl
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
May 04 2013 06:49 GMT
#527
On May 04 2013 15:42 opterown wrote:
bleh i don't know what's too up with prime, their players aren't exactly bad. maru #1GM for a lot of last season, byun reaching #6 and creator reaching top10 GM as well, all with 60-65% winrate, pity they can't translate that.


Too much ladder grinding for personal glory and too little preparation and team spirit. It all started with the modelling, when their vanity was awakened and from then on it all fell apart. Everyone is worried more about appearance than about busting their ass for the team. The addition of Barbie makes even more sense in getting the message out: We are the pretty hipster team, love us because we are the in-club, and if we fail it was someone else´s fall. Firing the coach would be a start and...

No I´m just kidding. Normally I´d say it was some kind of terran volatility at play, but with three kills from Ryung I´ll have to spare that one for their loss against the Incredible Protosses.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 04 2013 06:53 GMT
#528
On May 04 2013 15:42 Roman666 wrote:
Ah this GSTL is so polarized, most of the results are 4-0, 4-1. When you wonder what the result would be, pick the stronger team and place one of those in the result. Its getting boring, it looks like some teams are 50 years behind the others with skill, meta game etc.

this GSTL season has been really boring imo ;/
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 04 2013 06:56 GMT
#529
The matches seem kind of one sided the past few weeks. I hope next week has some closer games (at least in map score).
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
May 04 2013 07:01 GMT
#530
On May 04 2013 15:56 Sumahi wrote:
The matches seem kind of one sided the past few weeks. I hope next week has some closer games (at least in map score).


Agreed. This season so far feels just random.
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
May 04 2013 07:07 GMT
#531
On May 04 2013 15:43 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 15:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
On May 04 2013 15:38 Dodgin wrote:
IM better beat Prime and Abuzu I can't handle any more team league disappointment


Hoping IM doesn't disappoint you in teams leagues is never a good idea it seems

Most of there players getting past the first round of code A is a little reassuring.


they always do well in GSL, that's standard. so is losing in gstl


Not anymore imo. "Do well" for IM used to be that their players are the title contender. Meanwhile, YoDa & LosirA are the favorite to drop out next week
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 07:12:27
May 04 2013 07:08 GMT
#532
On May 04 2013 15:42 opterown wrote:
bleh i don't know what's too up with prime, their players aren't exactly bad. maru #1GM for a lot of last season, byun reaching #6 and creator reaching top10 GM as well, all with 60-65% winrate, pity they can't translate that.

Their players are great, but I think they've had trouble with the HotS transition and they're particularly vulnerable the way they play in GSTL like Khaldor said. They just rely on the same 4 players over and over, they always play the same style, they don't usually go for sniper builds, so it's really easy to prepare for them. Just prepare for terran and that's 3/4 bases covered. MKP is easy to snipe b/c his greedy style is so predictable, and Creator's macro style has translated to HotS pretty badly, especially in PvT he seems lost. It seems like terrans always have the advantage in the lategame with vikings to snipe your colossi and ghosts to EMP and snipe your templar, whichever tech path you choose, they can hard counter it. And that's their 2 best players (although Byun appears to disagree.)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 04 2013 07:10 GMT
#533
On May 04 2013 16:07 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 15:43 Dodgin wrote:
On May 04 2013 15:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
On May 04 2013 15:38 Dodgin wrote:
IM better beat Prime and Abuzu I can't handle any more team league disappointment


Hoping IM doesn't disappoint you in teams leagues is never a good idea it seems

Most of there players getting past the first round of code A is a little reassuring.


they always do well in GSL, that's standard. so is losing in gstl


Not anymore imo. "Do well" for IM used to be that their players are the title contender. Meanwhile, YoDa & LosirA are the favorite to drop out next week


I don't see how yoda is the favorite to drop out of his group, losira's isn't that hard either.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 04 2013 07:12 GMT
#534
lmao Prime doesn't have one good player anymore
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 04 2013 07:13 GMT
#535
On May 04 2013 16:12 GunSec wrote:
lmao Prime doesn't have one good player anymore

#1GM last season pretty bad right
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 07:14:02
May 04 2013 07:13 GMT
#536
On May 04 2013 16:08 Evil_Sheep wrote: It seems like terrans always have the advantage in the lategame with vikings to snipe your colossi and ghosts to EMP and snipe your templar, whichever tech path you choose, they can hard counter it.


Unless you're CranK.

The thing about that style is that Terran are starting to get seriously overcommitted to the hard-counters and it's fucking them badly. How many times have you seen Terrans make the "perfect" comp, only to have it picked apart? Once they're lose either their Ghosts or their Vikings, the Protoss just rolls over them because they spent too much supply on specialist units and not enough on DPS and meat. That style relies on the Protoss getting a bad engagement, at which point you can kill them, but if the Protoss is playing defensively and picking you apart with runbys and warp-prism play, you are forced into a nasty engagement where the Protoss has the upper hand.

SC2 is not a game of hard-counters and if you play it like one, you will lose a lot.
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ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 07:39:23
May 04 2013 07:39 GMT
#537
Well playing against prepared oponents is obviously harder than droping hellbats on ladder 24/7 just to get a rank.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-04 08:09:28
May 04 2013 07:53 GMT
#538
[SPL] Team 8 vs. SK Telecom T1 R5 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18469352
[SPL] EG-TL vs. STX SouL R5 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18469359

tomorrow's SPL threads!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
May 04 2013 07:54 GMT
#539
On May 04 2013 16:13 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 16:12 GunSec wrote:
lmao Prime doesn't have one good player anymore

#1GM last season pretty bad right



i got news for you, ladder dont matter yesterday mkp played jaehoon for some showmatch thing jaehoon dont even play ladder and he 3-1 him really easy, ladder is just points
Progamer
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
May 04 2013 07:58 GMT
#540
Gratz to Axiom!

Now, sure the results always are 4-0 or 4-0....i think it would be better to do a BO9 again. Right?
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