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iS.Axslav
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 01:49:58
April 22 2013 22:36 GMT
#1
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The winner of Winners Round 7 and Losers round 12 advance to the Premier League. Tune in and watch at www.majorleaguegaming.com and on Twitch.TV at 8 PM ET.

Winners Round 7
(P)Alicia vs (Z)Revival

+ Show Spoiler [results] +

Game 1
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Whirlwind
Winner: Alicia


Game 2
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Map: Neo Planet S
Winner: Alicia


Game 3
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Not Needed Alicia won 2-0
Winner:


Losers Round 11
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)DeMusliM

+ Show Spoiler [results] +

Game 1
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Daybreak
Winner: Demuslim


Game 2
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Cloud Kingdom
Winner: Demuslim


Game 3
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Not Needed Demuslim won 2-0
Winner:


Losers Round 12
+ Show Spoiler [players] +

(T)DeMusliM vs (Z)Revival

+ Show Spoiler [results] +

Game 1
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Neo Planet S
Winner: Revival


Game 2
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Unknown
Winner: Demuslim


Game 3
+ Show Spoiler +
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige
Winner: Revival



Paramo
Profile Joined July 2008
Mexico138 Posts
April 22 2013 23:19 GMT
#2
Demuslim!!!! Do it handsome devil!
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
April 22 2013 23:21 GMT
#3
Umm... Don't we already know who won these two matches.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
April 22 2013 23:25 GMT
#4
Revival 2 - 0 Alicia
Jaedong 2 - 1 Demuslim

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 22 2013 23:26 GMT
#5
I dunno about you, but I don't watch games to see the winner, I watch to see how it happened. It's the journey, not the destination.
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Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
April 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#6
On April 23 2013 08:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I dunno about you, but I don't watch games to see the winner, I watch to see how it happened. It's the journey, not the destination.

I love stories in tournaments, but knowing the results of them for me kind of defeats the storyline.
Axeltoss
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States283 Posts
April 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#7
Fionn can you put that in spoiler tags please?
@Axeltoss
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
April 22 2013 23:31 GMT
#8
On April 23 2013 08:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I dunno about you, but I don't watch games to see the winner, I watch to see how it happened. It's the journey, not the destination.


also for the gameplay, can't wait to watch jaedong vs demuslim!
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-22 23:57:46
April 22 2013 23:57 GMT
#9
Two sick matches, shame we know the results. Looking forward to the cast anyway Axeltoss.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
April 23 2013 00:06 GMT
#10
I know nothing of the results. I am living in a bubble of ignorance and am looking forward to the matches.
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iS.Axslav
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States248 Posts
April 23 2013 00:10 GMT
#11
On April 23 2013 09:06 Sumahi wrote:
I know nothing of the results. I am living in a bubble of ignorance and am looking forward to the matches.


I've managed to stay in the same bubble we're lucky
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 00:20:49
April 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#12
It sure is taking a long time to reload these replays. Edit: 20 minutes from scheduled time?
Coopfreak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 01:33:54
April 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#13
@Fionn
Great.
#spoilerTag

edit: Oh, is that a prediction? Gave me a heart attack.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
April 23 2013 00:33 GMT
#14
On April 23 2013 08:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I dunno about you, but I don't watch games to see the winner, I watch to see how it happened. It's the journey, not the destination.

So when NASL and TLS are doing it for years its fine, but when it's MLG, the witchhunt must go on?
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 23 2013 08:29 ROOTAxeltoss wrote:
Fionn can you put that in spoiler tags please?

oh you
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 23 2013 00:36 GMT
#15
On April 23 2013 09:33 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 08:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I dunno about you, but I don't watch games to see the winner, I watch to see how it happened. It's the journey, not the destination.

So when NASL and TLS are doing it for years its fine, but when it's MLG, the witchhunt must go on?
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 23 2013 08:29 ROOTAxeltoss wrote:
Fionn can you put that in spoiler tags please?

oh you


Dont see any pitchfork in TB's comment, or am I blind?
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 00:44:21
April 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#16
On April 23 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Revival 2 - 0 Alicia
Jaedong 2 - 1 Demuslim



Wait what?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 00:45:00
April 23 2013 00:44 GMT
#17
On April 23 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Revival 2 - 0 Alicia
Jaedong 2 - 1 Demuslim


I like how you still spread your often quoted curse on some players
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 23 2013 00:45 GMT
#18
On April 23 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:
Revival 2 - 0 Alicia
Jaedong 2 - 1 Demuslim



dude wtf?
"Right on" - Morrow
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 23 2013 00:45 GMT
#19
The results Fionn posted are wrong
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 23 2013 00:47 GMT
#20
On April 23 2013 09:45 Dodgin wrote:
The results Fionn posted are wrong


People watching the games apparently ignore the big ass score board at the top of the screen since the first game was 1-0 alicia. Ahwell.
월요 날 재미있
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 23 2013 00:49 GMT
#21
On April 23 2013 09:47 Loxley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 09:45 Dodgin wrote:
The results Fionn posted are wrong


People watching the games apparently ignore the big ass score board at the top of the screen since the first game was 1-0 alicia. Ahwell.


oh you're right. didn't even read the alicia revival part. just read the demuslim vs jd "result" lol.
"Right on" - Morrow
SKaysc
Profile Joined May 2010
United States305 Posts
April 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#22
agreed fionn needs to spoiler the results
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 00:58:47
April 23 2013 00:57 GMT
#23
On April 23 2013 08:26 TotalBiscuit wrote:
I dunno about you, but I don't watch games to see the winner, I watch to see how it happened. It's the journey, not the destination.

I agree 50/50. Having found out the results by accident takes away from the games since you know already if the front runner will win or if a crazy come back happens which isn't really exciting when you know its coming.

On April 23 2013 09:55 SKaysc wrote:
agreed fionn needs to spoiler the results

pretty sure that is his guesses, dont see why a TL mod would openly spoil results
JD, need I say more? :D
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
April 23 2013 01:01 GMT
#24
jaedong control... is terrible.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
April 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#25
Dude, guys, Demuslim's good. One of the best, if not the best, foreigner Terran out there.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3043 Posts
April 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#26
terran looking strong
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 23 2013 01:04 GMT
#27
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?
"Right on" - Morrow
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
April 23 2013 01:08 GMT
#28
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
April 23 2013 01:11 GMT
#29
Um, those banes were weird. Were they supposed to do that? I think Demu's got this!
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
April 23 2013 01:13 GMT
#30
yeah... excellent control there...
Is Incontrol pinning JD's arm or something?
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 23 2013 01:13 GMT
#31
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.
"Right on" - Morrow
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
April 23 2013 01:15 GMT
#32
Jaedong is doing the tasteless build
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openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
April 23 2013 01:15 GMT
#33
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 23 2013 01:16 GMT
#34
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.
SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
April 23 2013 01:18 GMT
#35
I expected more from this serie
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 23 2013 01:18 GMT
#36
Wooah did that just happen O_O

Demuslim! I'm kinda glad actually since I want Jaedong to compete in Korea and I love Demluslim so really hope he gets in.
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Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
April 23 2013 01:19 GMT
#37
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 23 2013 01:19 GMT
#38
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.


I believe these games were played last night as well. So JD had been playing way into the early morning. He definitely didn't look as good as against Center.
"Right on" - Morrow
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 23 2013 01:22 GMT
#39
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 23 2013 01:22 GMT
#40
On April 23 2013 10:02 RiceAgainst wrote:
Dude, guys, Demuslim's good. One of the best, if not the best, foreigner Terran out there.

i second that.
I also don't know any other good terran (don't say something stupid like goody now) that could remotely compete with koreans. Seems the terran race isn't made for foreigners
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 23 2013 01:24 GMT
#41
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?

wouldn't this be the same?
Sleeping habits and rhythm extremely affects you on a higher level of play
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 23 2013 01:31 GMT
#42
On April 23 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:
Revival 2 - 0 Alicia
Jaedong 2 - 1 Demuslim


Tactical results, lol
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 23 2013 01:34 GMT
#43
On April 23 2013 10:24 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?

wouldn't this be the same?
Sleeping habits and rhythm extremely affects you on a higher level of play

I think the argument is that JD seemed to perform significantly below par for him. Demuslim gets routinely clowned in tournaments by much lesser Zergs, so lag and poor time for the game might have affected JD significantly. Or maybe not.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#44
On April 23 2013 10:34 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:24 Rollora wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?

wouldn't this be the same?
Sleeping habits and rhythm extremely affects you on a higher level of play

I think the argument is that JD seemed to perform significantly below par for him. Demuslim gets routinely clowned in tournaments by much lesser Zergs, so lag and poor time for the game might have affected JD significantly. Or maybe not.



Jaedong has never been impressive apart from his zvz. Yeah, he beat Flash in Proleague, but was it a long straight up macro game ? It was just a baneling bust to punish Flash's greed which any pro level player is capable of doing.
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#45
of course JD was playing below par, it was probably like 10 AM for him and he should have been up for a while.
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
April 23 2013 01:46 GMT
#46
Well crap, they are missing a replay...
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 23 2013 01:47 GMT
#47
"we were never given that replay". hahaha nice. Just after the match.
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
April 23 2013 01:47 GMT
#48
Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM 4m
Hmm @MLG you're showing the replays in the wrong order.

Ben, send it to them!
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 23 2013 01:48 GMT
#49
Christ......Demuslim gets that far and then gets cheesed in both of the games he lost. ...I feel for Ben.
Thrillhouse
Profile Joined December 2010
United States27 Posts
April 23 2013 01:49 GMT
#50
Shambles
You want excitement?! Shove THIS up your stocking!!
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 23 2013 01:53 GMT
#51
On April 23 2013 10:48 Slardar wrote:
Christ......Demuslim gets that far and then gets cheesed in both of the games he lost. ...I feel for Ben.


Well he cheesed just before vs JD, and still I think terran need to be aware of opening fast CC with widowmines as defence, they could get busted.
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redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1736 Posts
April 23 2013 01:54 GMT
#52
Is this over for today or is revival just qualified for the premier division?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 02:08:26
April 23 2013 02:08 GMT
#53
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.




Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?


lol, maybe because it is the qualifiers for NA???
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 02:22:09
April 23 2013 02:21 GMT
#54
Why is he talking Bomber vs Goswser when its America qualifiers? Is it over?
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Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
April 23 2013 03:05 GMT
#55
On April 23 2013 11:21 Mambo wrote:
Why is he talking Bomber vs Goswser when its America qualifiers? Is it over?

The qualifiers are over for the night ^^
xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
April 23 2013 03:20 GMT
#56
On April 23 2013 10:22 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:02 RiceAgainst wrote:
Dude, guys, Demuslim's good. One of the best, if not the best, foreigner Terran out there.

i second that.
I also don't know any other good terran (don't say something stupid like goody now) that could remotely compete with koreans. Seems the terran race isn't made for foreigners


lucifron, kas, MajOr and thorzain are all very good terrans. I wouldn't call Demuslim the best since I would put Thorzain, MajOr or lucifron above him in any matchup any day. Also fun fact, if you dig through demuslim's vods, you can see at one point major was giving him advice on TvT in WoL.
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