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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
April 17 2013 13:03 GMT
#1741
On April 17 2013 21:51 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 21:46 CCa1ss1e wrote:
with what I'm seeing now, I can't help but wonder what units and upgrades there will be for legacy of the void.

Toss games would be more entertaining if they werent always so deathball ish
They seriously have to address that in LotV
Toss's games are basically
"i make ball, watch ball grow"

so it's like playing katamari damacy?
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 17 2013 13:04 GMT
#1742
On April 17 2013 22:03 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 21:51 LighT. wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:46 CCa1ss1e wrote:
with what I'm seeing now, I can't help but wonder what units and upgrades there will be for legacy of the void.

Toss games would be more entertaining if they werent always so deathball ish
They seriously have to address that in LotV
Toss's games are basically
"i make ball, watch ball grow"

so it's like playing katamari damacy?


Katamari is atleast fun to play;)
Jaedong & Faker
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 17 2013 13:05 GMT
#1743
On April 17 2013 21:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 21:54 ZenithM wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:53 LighT. wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:50 ZenithM wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:47 Incanus wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:43 lichter wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:41 lichter wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:40 AxionSteel wrote:
I kind of feel bad for protoss GSL fans, but then again I remember that Protoss matchups are terrible to watch so the less the better.



Proleague is pretty much PvX so you can watch that for your fix


Ugh proleague.

No thanks. I'll stick with GOM. Better experience all around, I'll leave it at that.


Proleague is fun. Better than GSTL at least, even though the games aren't very high level T_T

lol, this guy. Proleague games aren't very high level? Have you watched any games since last season?

At least he's right in that Proleague is far superior to GSTL :/


To each his own. GSTL has been awesome lately.

Hes right.
The games in SPL, most of them arent high level.
but Ive watched the GSTL and most of those arent high level either.
Players are struggling to find a niche.

But SPL is more entertaining than GSTL.

Proleague gives me stuff like PartinG vs Innovation or Flash vs Fantasy.
GSTL can't give me matchups like these.


Those match ups rarely if ever live up to their hype though.

Besides, I have GSL Code S, Code A or other premier tournaments like MLG to hope for match ups like those.

Bo1's are never anything I particularly look forward to. Give me a Flash vs Fantasy Bo5-Bo7 and now you have my attention.

GSTL gets me going precisely because it isn't just a series of preplanned matches. There's a level of spontaneity to it that only occurs in Pro-league during the ace match. I love that about it.

Yeah I can understand.
I don't have much time to watch Starcraft nowadays so Proleague is a more reliable provider of good live matchups. In GSTL if I watch live it could just be some unknown ladder monster guy all-killing some broke team, not very funny. Also I do think that Kespa teams are more skilled overall than eSF teams now, simply due to the environment and all that.

And I don't like Khaldor's casting at all (I like what he does for SC2 and all his side-stuff don't get me wrong), I know it's not a popular opinion but it's really the nail in the coffin for me. And yeah, I like it less that Proleague casters :D
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 17 2013 13:06 GMT
#1744
OMG!? Gumiho wrecked!? Guess I'll be watching those sweet sweet VODs tomorrow.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 17 2013 13:06 GMT
#1745
On April 17 2013 22:03 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 21:51 LighT. wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:46 CCa1ss1e wrote:
with what I'm seeing now, I can't help but wonder what units and upgrades there will be for legacy of the void.

Toss games would be more entertaining if they werent always so deathball ish
They seriously have to address that in LotV
Toss's games are basically
"i make ball, watch ball grow"

so it's like playing katamari damacy?

Someone should make that a custom map. Kata'riam D'mashii.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 17 2013 13:16 GMT
#1746
Hooray! Glorious day for the Terran empire!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
April 17 2013 13:19 GMT
#1747
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 17 2013 13:19 GMT
#1748
On April 17 2013 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.

how is he really lucky? he's a damn good TvTer
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 17 2013 13:23 GMT
#1749
That was a highly unexpected result wow. Gumiho first?!? I would predict him dead last in this group, Hyun 1st or 2nd was my upset choice. Can't win them all!

I'm actually quite happy that Rain is out though. Never liked that dude, off with HIS HEAD! BRING in the TRUE SKT King....The BeeSuit.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 17 2013 13:24 GMT
#1750
On April 17 2013 21:56 flodeskum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 21:51 LighT. wrote:
On April 17 2013 21:46 CCa1ss1e wrote:
with what I'm seeing now, I can't help but wonder what units and upgrades there will be for legacy of the void.

Toss games would be more entertaining if they werent always so deathball ish
They seriously have to address that in LotV
Toss's games are basically
"i make ball, watch ball grow"

The main problem is still that you can't lose units as protoss. They're so expensive and in small groups they do nothing and they only really become effective with decent splash support...

So you just turtle... and hope you can get that golden comp before your opponent kills you.

TvP has been practically the same matchup since WoL first came out. And it's rarely an exiting thing to spectate.

I dont want to compare BW: SC2 but I feel it needs to be addressed.
What made toss non-deathballish in BW?

You had reavers + Shuttle. A pretty freakin strong combination in the right hands that could do massive damage with small numbers.
in SC2 you have colosseus.+ warp prism. No one ever uses it because its pointless. Stim units outspeed the warp prism. It just sort of dies. The fact that vikings are standard makes it so as well.

Unit clumping. BW didnt have the units clumping into a massive ball and were more wide spread. In SC2 because of the intelligent UI, the units clump up as a ball like nobodies business.

Expansion fighting. This goes for all 3 races. Instead of actively fighting for expansions, all players are doing is defending and denying, not taking the base for themselves. This = Less fighting = less entertainment
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 17 2013 13:28 GMT
#1751
On April 17 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Hooray! Glorious day for the Terran empire!


Empire strikes back?
Empire happy?
The empire has Yoda!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 17 2013 13:32 GMT
#1752
What's this, a 2/2 liquibet?
AdministratorBreak the chains
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
April 17 2013 13:35 GMT
#1753
On April 17 2013 22:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.

how is he really lucky? he's a damn good TvTer

I don't think that Gumiho's TvT is that good, really. Not with the current maps and not even close to the KeSPA TvT.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 17 2013 13:38 GMT
#1754
On April 17 2013 22:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.

how is he really lucky? he's a damn good TvTer

Because #boguskespainnovationadvantagehype
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 13:39:11
April 17 2013 13:38 GMT
#1755
On April 17 2013 22:35 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 22:19 opterown wrote:
On April 17 2013 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.

how is he really lucky? he's a damn good TvTer

I don't think that Gumiho's TvT is that good, really. Not with the current maps and not even close to the KeSPA TvT.

how exactly do the maps disfavour TvT for gumiho?

kespa also only have two s-tier terrans (and flash hasn't looked good lately)
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 17 2013 13:44 GMT
#1756
Nooo Hyun Uch off all zergs kinda expected most from him the Bomber of zergs.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
April 17 2013 13:45 GMT
#1757
On April 17 2013 22:23 Slardar wrote:
That was a highly unexpected result wow. Gumiho first?!? I would predict him dead last in this group, Hyun 1st or 2nd was my upset choice. Can't win them all!

Unexpected result, sure. But highly unexpected ? Hell no. Gumiho at his best is better than Life... His inconsistency has always been a problem, which explains why he wasn't expected to top his group, but he definitely had the potential to do it.
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
April 17 2013 13:45 GMT
#1758
SOOOOO happy to see Gumiho advance! Looking forward to watching these VODs
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 13:48:55
April 17 2013 13:47 GMT
#1759
On April 17 2013 22:38 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 22:35 DidYuhim wrote:
On April 17 2013 22:19 opterown wrote:
On April 17 2013 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.

how is he really lucky? he's a damn good TvTer

I don't think that Gumiho's TvT is that good, really. Not with the current maps and not even close to the KeSPA TvT.

how exactly do the maps disfavour TvT for gumiho?

kespa also only have two s-tier terrans (
and flash hasn't looked good lately)


This is actually depressingly true. Fantasy really doesn't look good at the moment and then there is nobody else I can think off.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 17 2013 13:49 GMT
#1760
On April 17 2013 22:38 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 22:35 DidYuhim wrote:
On April 17 2013 22:19 opterown wrote:
On April 17 2013 22:19 NicksonReyes wrote:
I was really hoping for a TvT. Gumiho was really lucky to have dodged that.

how is he really lucky? he's a damn good TvTer

I don't think that Gumiho's TvT is that good, really. Not with the current maps and not even close to the KeSPA TvT.

how exactly do the maps disfavour TvT for gumiho?

kespa also only have two s-tier terrans (and flash hasn't looked good lately)


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