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TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
April 15 2013 23:44 GMT
#3361
On April 16 2013 08:40 Foudzing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 08:38 Iodem wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:36 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
MVP vs MMA for Europe! Sounds good >_>

less lag kills them both.

Mvp and MMA are seeded, so they don't have to worry about lag. They'll be playing "offline."


Nope, RO32 of premier league will be online.

But anyway Mvp and MMA will have to travel to Europe for the Ro32 or they will lose for sure.


If anything these qualifiers will make the cross region players think twice from where they play the groupstages.
MINDGAMES!
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 15 2013 23:46 GMT
#3362
Some people just loves to be negative...
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
April 15 2013 23:47 GMT
#3363
Does anyone know which stream was showing Bunny vs finale? I'm trying to find vods.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
April 15 2013 23:48 GMT
#3364
On April 16 2013 08:24 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 08:21 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:20 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:
On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story.


Lol its a qualifier.


And?

He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story.


So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier?


No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for


What are you talking about? He is on that danish team.


Being on a team does not make him professional.


You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?

have you read his contract?^^


Even if he doesnt get a salary he is still a pro-gamer. If salary is the definition of pro-gamer than there are bunch of Korean amateurs in GSL.


If you play in GSL you are winning money, and if you live in a team house you get a bed and you are being fed. Koreans may not get a salary, but they are being taken care of.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 15 2013 23:48 GMT
#3365
‏@NrSWelmu 1h
Arghhhhhhhhhhh, lose again now in top8 vs Bunny. He played very well and vetoed both my favorite maps while I made some mistakes. GL to him!


Welmu so mannered. ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 23:50:32
April 15 2013 23:50 GMT
#3366
On April 16 2013 08:48 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 08:24 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:21 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:20 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:
On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:
[quote]

Lol its a qualifier.


And?

He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story.


So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier?


No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for


What are you talking about? He is on that danish team.


Being on a team does not make him professional.


You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?

have you read his contract?^^


Even if he doesnt get a salary he is still a pro-gamer. If salary is the definition of pro-gamer than there are bunch of Korean amateurs in GSL.


If you play in GSL you are winning money, and if you live in a team house you get a bed and you are being fed. Koreans may not get a salary, but they are being taken care of.

At the cost of their education and future, I'd assume. I think a lot of them are young and like you pointed out, not receiving a salary. And even if you make it into Code A, you're not winning that much money from the GSL. It's a very top heavy prize pool (i.e. bottom light)
Plat Support Main #believe
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 15 2013 23:52 GMT
#3367
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?
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Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
April 15 2013 23:53 GMT
#3368
On April 16 2013 08:50 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 08:48 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:24 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:21 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:20 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:
[quote]

And?

He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story.


So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier?


No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for


What are you talking about? He is on that danish team.


Being on a team does not make him professional.


You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?

have you read his contract?^^


Even if he doesnt get a salary he is still a pro-gamer. If salary is the definition of pro-gamer than there are bunch of Korean amateurs in GSL.


If you play in GSL you are winning money, and if you live in a team house you get a bed and you are being fed. Koreans may not get a salary, but they are being taken care of.

At the cost of their education and future, I'd assume. I think a lot of them are young and like you pointed out, not receiving a salary. And even if you make it into Code A, you're not winning that much money from the GSL. It's a very top heavy prize pool (i.e. bottom light)


I don't see what their education has to do with anything? Being professional in next to any performing art/sport will require you to sack your education.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
April 15 2013 23:53 GMT
#3369
On April 16 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?

Easy answer. Me ! :D
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
April 15 2013 23:55 GMT
#3370
On April 16 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?


Way too hard to predict. And thats the beauty of it. The Koreans of course will again be contenders but there's still a good amount of players that could knock them off.
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
April 15 2013 23:56 GMT
#3371
On April 16 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?

The One and only German-Australian-Norwegian Targa
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
April 15 2013 23:56 GMT
#3372
On April 16 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?

really want to see XiGua and Pandatank advance. They've put on good showings so far!
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
April 15 2013 23:58 GMT
#3373
On April 16 2013 08:53 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 08:50 Jacmert wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:48 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:24 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:21 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:20 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:
[quote]

So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier?


No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for


What are you talking about? He is on that danish team.


Being on a team does not make him professional.


You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?

have you read his contract?^^


Even if he doesnt get a salary he is still a pro-gamer. If salary is the definition of pro-gamer than there are bunch of Korean amateurs in GSL.


If you play in GSL you are winning money, and if you live in a team house you get a bed and you are being fed. Koreans may not get a salary, but they are being taken care of.

At the cost of their education and future, I'd assume. I think a lot of them are young and like you pointed out, not receiving a salary. And even if you make it into Code A, you're not winning that much money from the GSL. It's a very top heavy prize pool (i.e. bottom light)


I don't see what their education has to do with anything? Being professional in next to any performing art/sport will require you to sack your education.

The vast majority of these young progamers are not going to be able to make the big bucks in SC2. So most of them will have to eventually return to school (late) or try and enter the workforce at an entry-level position without the benefit of a competitive education.
Plat Support Main #believe
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 15 2013 23:58 GMT
#3374
Looks like WCS is a success, you guys seem to enjoy it
Good stuff.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 00:04:35
April 16 2013 00:02 GMT
#3375
On April 16 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?

Targa and an Empire Terran.

Welmu in the fourth one with a Korean finally making it through the other half.

My heart choices are fraer, LiveZerg, Beasty and Welmu for the last four spots.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
April 16 2013 00:03 GMT
#3376
xlord will make it obviously
xlord 5:0
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
April 16 2013 00:04 GMT
#3377
On April 16 2013 08:58 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 08:53 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:50 Jacmert wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:48 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:24 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:21 StarVe wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:20 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:
On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:
[quote]

No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for


What are you talking about? He is on that danish team.


Being on a team does not make him professional.


You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?

have you read his contract?^^


Even if he doesnt get a salary he is still a pro-gamer. If salary is the definition of pro-gamer than there are bunch of Korean amateurs in GSL.


If you play in GSL you are winning money, and if you live in a team house you get a bed and you are being fed. Koreans may not get a salary, but they are being taken care of.

At the cost of their education and future, I'd assume. I think a lot of them are young and like you pointed out, not receiving a salary. And even if you make it into Code A, you're not winning that much money from the GSL. It's a very top heavy prize pool (i.e. bottom light)


I don't see what their education has to do with anything? Being professional in next to any performing art/sport will require you to sack your education.

The vast majority of these young progamers are not going to be able to make the big bucks in SC2. So most of them will have to eventually return to school (late) or try and enter the workforce at an entry-level position without the benefit of a competitive education.


Pro gamer is without a doubt a questionable career move, but it doesn't change the fact that these kids are atleast breaking even while they are doing it. Besides - in the long run it won't matter if you started university 3 or 4 years late.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#3378
My wish list:

AxiR
Beasty
Bratok
Elfi
Fuzer
GoOdy
Welmu
Swedes

Sadly there is only four spots left
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
RaiderRob
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands377 Posts
April 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#3379
On April 16 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think will make it tomorrow?


Looking at the first few days Welmu, Beastyqt and Finale should be the favourites tomorrow.
People don't want freedom but fair leadership
Foudzing
Profile Joined December 2011
France181 Posts
April 16 2013 00:05 GMT
#3380
Beasty and finale are my picks.

But Adelscott will make it for sure, a WCS qualifier without a Millenium to qualify is not a WCS qualifer. haha
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