EPT[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs Samsung Khan Round 4 - Page 24
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
Not getting to see Fantasy vs Jangbi is a fucking crime.  | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
 well that sucks... | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:38 Ghanburighan wrote: God damn it. Placing Parting in my anti was a pretty bad idea >_< Woah you just got me to check mine and I am 81st.. normally my unresearched teams do god awful. I'll probably tank next week. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9341 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:39 ne4aJIb wrote: protoss too strong :D Mass doom drop on top of enermy army too stupid :D | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:40 Ender2701 wrote: Man I really wish Terrans would actually use Hellbats TvP. I am very confused why I see so much marauder marine right now, hellbat marine ghost viking or hellbat marauder viking is so much better. I have an insanely easy time vs marine marauder on ladder right now. It's really good in theory but it actually feels really awkward to mix in hellbat with MMM just like mixing ghosts in mech. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
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gobbledydook
Australia2593 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:39 Dodgin wrote: I have Parting, Rain, Bisu and Best on my team. SKT is my team. here comes those fantasy points :D YOU WIN +4 PartinG +5 Rain (3 win streak) +4 Bisu +4 Best +6 SKT OMG I only had Bisu and Stork only +4 | ||
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Ender2701
United States581 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:41 Wildmoon wrote: It's really good in theory but it actually feels really awkward to mix in hellbat with MMM just like mixing ghosts in mech. I've hit it on ladder. Every Terran I've seen using it has an insane TvP winrate, and this is high master/low GM. We also saw it in herOmarine vs CranK when heromarine won. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:40 Hider wrote: This game just illustrates everything that is wrong about Sc2. What the fuck did Rain actually do to win that game? For 90%+ of the viewers are I am sure that it just looked the Rain turtled for 15-20 minutes, and then a-moved raped his opponent. Im sure he probably did something that was difficult to execute, but it should be alot easier to see as a spectator when someone does something that is difficult to execute. Are you joking? He built his economy, tech and army while perfectly defending Reality's pressure. Reality invested in harassment which failed, so he was at a disadvantage. Not to mention Rain also had excellent control in that final battle, especially when he sniped all those full medivacs that Reality mistakenly loaded and did not boost. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
Not what I'm actually using at present. Would've responded sooner but was swapping less dodgy with better solution and watching my FPL points stack up.  Now if KT can just perform as well, I'm set. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:40 Hider wrote: This game just illustrates everything that is wrong about Sc2. What the fuck did Rain actually do to win that game? For 90%+ of the viewers are I am sure that it just looked the Rain turtled for 15-20 minutes, and then a-moved raped his opponent. Im sure he probably did something that was difficult to execute, but it should be alot easier to see as a spectator when someone does something that is difficult to execute. There are aggressive protoss styles too, Rain just choose to play a solid style of defending until he has a large enough advantage to attack. The way he executed his build was beautiful to watch for me being a protoss player. | ||
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Fearest
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centergoliath4
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On April 08 2013 16:40 Hider wrote: This game just illustrates everything that is wrong about Sc2. What the fuck did Rain actually do to win that game? For 90%+ of the viewers are I am sure that it just looked the Rain turtled for 15-20 minutes, and then a-moved raped his opponent. Im sure he probably did something that was difficult to execute, but it should be alot easier to see as a spectator when someone does something that is difficult to execute. the game still has problems imo and is still heavily deathballish. But i feel terrans should get hellbats / the new thors (which are immune to feedback) combined with bio/viking/medivacs and if terrans STILL lose horribly against the protoss deathball then maybe there is a bigger problem at hand here. the terran super army should trade "evenly" against the toss army allowing back and forth trades, in that game the protoss army clearly just stomped all over the terran army (but the terran army was just bio, no hellbats, no new thors) i guess flash will provide the answers soon (hopefully) if he cant find an answer there is no answer imo even he lost to rain but the match looked a bit closer also as a protoss player i was heavily against the mothership core nexus cannon concept because it just made any good protoss (like rain) garuntee the game is a 3base macro deathball fest since the mothership core should realistically make all early game aggression nonviable against a good toss... but the extreme power of the widow mine (for its relative cheap cost) imo is the new toy terrans need to try to abuse to do early game aggression against toss without the widow mine nothing will work imo the widow mine is pretty powerful for its 75/25 cost and it comes so early... the insane early power of the widow mine may be why blizzard wanted protoss to get the insane early power of the mamma core | ||
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Hider
Denmark9341 Posts
On April 08 2013 16:43 Giriath wrote: Are you joking? He built his economy, tech and army while perfectly defending Reality's pressure. Reality invested in harassment which failed, so he was at a disadvantage. Not to mention Rain also had excellent control in that final battle, especially when he sniped all those full medivacs that Reality mistakenly loaded and did not boost. Wait? You dont praise someone for building an economy and teching and building army right? This isn't Starcraft 2 anno 2010 or Sim City. Also I like the fact that you couldn't say one thing Rain did to win that battle (when medivcacs were sniped the battle was already won). There are aggressive protoss styles too, Rain just choose to play a solid style of defending until he has a large enough advantage to attack. The way he executed his build was beautiful to watch for me being a protoss player. Maybe - but the problem is that you have to be a "competetive" protoss player to enjoy that type of game. I still have no idea what Rain did that was actually executed better than the average master league player. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12128 Posts
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