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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
March 24 2013 16:49 GMT
#921
lol only "g" from johnnyrecco, so bm
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 24 2013 16:49 GMT
#922
On March 25 2013 01:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 01:41 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:39 Godwrath wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:37 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
HoTs didn't kill TvZ mech at all. You ever watched any streams of GMs? TvZ mech is crushing zergs on the regular.


That's complete bullshit btw.


lol no it is not. It's objectively true. TvZ mech at the highest level is alive and well.

Please ask one single GM zerg or terran...

The "highest level" is tournament play, not random ladder games.

Tournament play consists of people abusing the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state. They would be silly not to.

Mech is plenty viable and there's a ton of things people need to figure out with all the changes to it. Just general army compositions differ so wildly atm, and what happens when people get more comfortable adding the new ravens for example? How many mines are actually the optimal amount in the lategame?

Stop thinking you have it all figured out, these posts make my head hurt.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
March 24 2013 16:50 GMT
#923
Heromarine

but guys seriously... is the observer asleep?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 24 2013 16:50 GMT
#924
Good job Gabriel!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 24 2013 16:50 GMT
#925
On March 25 2013 01:48 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 01:45 Bagration wrote:
Hmm, I guess Crank had an off weekend

TB tweeted that he's been having a lot of problems with his neck, seeing a doctor daily. No idea if it's relevant to his play here but it seemed like he under-performed for some reason.


Yeah, it's a real shame, and it's apparently been an issue since last summer. Hopefully he recovers soon.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Fiasko
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany244 Posts
March 24 2013 16:50 GMT
#926
On March 25 2013 01:48 Insoleet wrote:
This observer is so bad ..


THIS!!! does he sleep sometimes?
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
March 24 2013 16:51 GMT
#927
the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state


Stop thinking you have it all figured out,


these posts make my head hurt.



julomat
Profile Joined April 2011
20 Posts
March 24 2013 16:51 GMT
#928
Feels like the observer is falling asleep all the time. Really bad observing for this tournament, he needs to practice more.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 24 2013 16:52 GMT
#929
On March 25 2013 01:50 Type|NarutO wrote:
Good job Gabriel!


Is it true that you taught him everything he knows?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 24 2013 16:53 GMT
#930
On March 25 2013 01:51 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state


Show nested quote +
Stop thinking you have it all figured out,


Show nested quote +
these posts make my head hurt.





haha thought the same.

On another note I hope Crank gets well soon, neck problems are annoying.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
March 24 2013 16:55 GMT
#931
Any news on Ret vs Sting?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 24 2013 16:55 GMT
#932
On March 25 2013 01:51 heartlxp wrote:
Show nested quote +
the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state


Show nested quote +
Stop thinking you have it all figured out,


Show nested quote +
these posts make my head hurt.




I was going to say that the medivac is too strong in the current metagame, people may learn to deal with it or it might get nerfed to appropriate levels. Either way you would be stupid not to abuse it in the current meta, especially considering how it doesn't require you to perfect new builds or unit compositions, it's the same old WOL stuff.

Better?
Cl0ne
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
March 24 2013 16:55 GMT
#933
Ret out 0-3 by Sting.

<3 Scarlett | MC | QueenE | DeMuslim | HuK <3 - Girls Fighting!
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 17:00:13
March 24 2013 16:57 GMT
#934
Mech is plenty viable

The better question is where this sense of entitlement to a unit composition is coming from? If mech units work better with bio support, or only in certain phases of the game, then that's the way it is. You don't see Protoss players whining they want to play with 'pure gateway' or 'pure robo' or 'pure air' in every imaginable situation and matchup and that the game is somehow flawed if every unit composition isn't identically strong in every single situation. Mech with Ghosts works just fine vs Toss, and yet I see Terrans whining that using Ghosts means it's not 'pure mech' anymore which is a ridiculous statement to say the least. Don't even get started on the upgrades being split between mech and bio. Even the so called 'Skytoss' has High Templars and some other crap like Archons on the ground and the air and ground get upgraded separately.
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 24 2013 16:58 GMT
#935
On March 25 2013 01:49 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 01:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:41 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:39 Godwrath wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:37 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
HoTs didn't kill TvZ mech at all. You ever watched any streams of GMs? TvZ mech is crushing zergs on the regular.


That's complete bullshit btw.


lol no it is not. It's objectively true. TvZ mech at the highest level is alive and well.

Please ask one single GM zerg or terran...

The "highest level" is tournament play, not random ladder games.

Tournament play consists of people abusing the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state. They would be silly not to.

Mech is plenty viable and there's a ton of things people need to figure out with all the changes to it. Just general army compositions differ so wildly atm, and what happens when people get more comfortable adding the new ravens for example? How many mines are actually the optimal amount in the lategame?

Stop thinking you have it all figured out, these posts make my head hurt.

A strategy can only be called viable once it has been tested extensively at the highest level of play.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 24 2013 16:59 GMT
#936
On March 25 2013 01:57 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
Mech is plenty viable

The better question is where this sense of entitlement to a unit composition is coming from? If mech units work better with bio support, or only in certain phases of the game, then that's the way it is. You don't see Protoss players whining they want to play with 'pure gateway' or 'pure robo' or 'pure air' in every imaginable situation and matchup and that the game is somehow flawed if every unit composition isn't identically strong in every single situation. Mech with Ghosts works just fine vs Toss, and yet I see Terrans whining that using Ghosts means it's not 'pure mech' anymore which is a ridiculous statement to say the least.


you mean that it's at the very least way worse than bio once you start building a 3rd ? Mech vP is just a joke in a macro game compared to bio.
Zest fanboy.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 24 2013 16:59 GMT
#937
On March 25 2013 01:58 Sapphire.lux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 01:49 Bagi wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:41 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:39 Godwrath wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:37 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
HoTs didn't kill TvZ mech at all. You ever watched any streams of GMs? TvZ mech is crushing zergs on the regular.


That's complete bullshit btw.


lol no it is not. It's objectively true. TvZ mech at the highest level is alive and well.

Please ask one single GM zerg or terran...

The "highest level" is tournament play, not random ladder games.

Tournament play consists of people abusing the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state. They would be silly not to.

Mech is plenty viable and there's a ton of things people need to figure out with all the changes to it. Just general army compositions differ so wildly atm, and what happens when people get more comfortable adding the new ravens for example? How many mines are actually the optimal amount in the lategame?

Stop thinking you have it all figured out, these posts make my head hurt.

A strategy can only be called viable once it has been tested extensively at the highest level of play.


No strategy is yet viable then.
Red and yellow are all I see
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#938
On March 25 2013 01:59 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 01:58 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:49 Bagi wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:41 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:39 Godwrath wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:37 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
HoTs didn't kill TvZ mech at all. You ever watched any streams of GMs? TvZ mech is crushing zergs on the regular.


That's complete bullshit btw.


lol no it is not. It's objectively true. TvZ mech at the highest level is alive and well.

Please ask one single GM zerg or terran...

The "highest level" is tournament play, not random ladder games.

Tournament play consists of people abusing the medivac that is obviously too strong in its current state. They would be silly not to.

Mech is plenty viable and there's a ton of things people need to figure out with all the changes to it. Just general army compositions differ so wildly atm, and what happens when people get more comfortable adding the new ravens for example? How many mines are actually the optimal amount in the lategame?

Stop thinking you have it all figured out, these posts make my head hurt.

A strategy can only be called viable once it has been tested extensively at the highest level of play.


No strategy is yet viable then.

?? Could you elaborate?
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#939
Can't believe sting vs ret wasnt streamed :[
Terran & Potato Salad.
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 17:04:00
March 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#940
you mean that it's at the very least way worse than bio once you start building a 3rd ? Mech vP is just a joke in a macro game compared to bio.

Whether your opinion is true or false in reality is largely irrelevant. This sense of entitlement to unit compositions is ludicrous. The Terran players who are emotionally invested to whining in these threads are essentially refusing to use their race's units that absolutely do work because they like other units (whether it's visually or whatever) more. This is a competitive RTS game. Use whatever works and move on.
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