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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 17 2013 03:57 GMT
#10881
On March 17 2013 12:53 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:51 MuseMike wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:51 DifuntO wrote:
It's not that oracles are more cost-efficient than marines.It's that marines is the only thing terran has at that point and if they die there's nothing left to protect the mineral line.

So yeah,very strong opening but i wouldn't say it's imbalanced.

Yea they removed turrets in hots right?

yeah that's a great solution. require terran to build turrets to avoid potentially dying to something they may or may not know is coming.

Plus that's how metagame balances itself.
1) Terran aggression early game too strong.
2) Protoss finds an aggressive timing of their own.
3) Terran has to prepare for that, slowing down their offensive timings.
4) Shit's balanced.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 17 2013 03:57 GMT
#10882
MC getting a nice little lead early on. lets bring it home bosstoss
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 17 2013 03:57 GMT
#10883
LMAO. Taeja GG right after the medivacs get in position in the doom drop.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 17 2013 03:57 GMT
#10884
wait, what happened in that last game in Bomber vs Taeja? Oo;
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10885
Oh TaeJa...

Well, at least my second favorite Terran progresses.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 03:59:12
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10886
Wow, TaeJa must hate HotS TvT.
But honestly, so far I like Wings of Liberty TvT more as well.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10887
MMMMMMMONSTER KILL. Bomber slaughters TaeJa.
The Bomber boy
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10888
TaeJa was quick to GG today. T_T
Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10889
nooooo Taeja!
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10890
Bomber is so good, shame Taeja lost though.. GG
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10891
Bomber!
Long live the King of Wings
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10892
Sorry, but Taeja seems to have a loser mentality. What in the hell is wrong with his nerves and decision making? Early gg'ing too.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10893
On March 17 2013 12:57 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:51 MuseMike wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:51 DifuntO wrote:
It's not that oracles are more cost-efficient than marines.It's that marines is the only thing terran has at that point and if they die there's nothing left to protect the mineral line.

So yeah,very strong opening but i wouldn't say it's imbalanced.

Yea they removed turrets in hots right?


Where did i say that?

Obviously you need turrets but it will cost you 450 minerals not going to production.Also you don't know how many oracles there are.Mvp had 20 marines he was like "ok i got this,don't need turrets".

Wow, you mean you have to actually make defensive buildings for heavy tech pressure? Mvp made 20 marines for a unit that ills 5 marines 1 on 1. Sounds like a bad decision.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10894
Well Bomber deserved to win. He outplayed Taeja most of the series.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10895
On March 17 2013 12:50 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:49 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:47 KayZ wrote:
MSC's offensive capabilities should be toned down I think...


Hah no way. More early game options please. I'm so sick of WoL's NR15. Like the safest build for almost every race was a quick double expand and it was so hard to punish.

Don't force macro. It will happen when two skilled players are unable to gain an early edge on the other naturally.

Yep exactly. So sick of this 3 base default bullshit. Let the players be aggressive. If race A has too powerful of an offensive option, give race B an equally powerful offensive weapon as well, not some fucking defensive buff...



The problem is mostly that most successful aggression in SC2 either ends with a straight up win, or significant enough damage that it may as well be a win. So "let players be aggressive" translates into "games lasting less than 10 minutes". I think it's fine for a race to have standard riskless aggressive potential - like speedivacs are right now for example, or how FD was in BW, but there should be a shift of momentum at some point, and the other race should get their time to have map control and do shit. As in, Protoss gets to do stuff at some point too in PvT, instead of defending the entire game and winning with a big push. Ditto for Zerg.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10896
LOL WTF TAEJA?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10897
LOL, Taeja just saw all the medivacs fly into his base and "gg"...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46626 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10898
Mines, nukes, and missiles:

[image loading]
Startale Bomberman.

The Mad Bomber ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10899
On March 17 2013 12:53 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 12:51 MuseMike wrote:
On March 17 2013 12:51 DifuntO wrote:
It's not that oracles are more cost-efficient than marines.It's that marines is the only thing terran has at that point and if they die there's nothing left to protect the mineral line.

So yeah,very strong opening but i wouldn't say it's imbalanced.

Yea they removed turrets in hots right?

yeah that's a great solution. require terran to build turrets to avoid potentially dying to something they may or may not know is coming.


Did you see what Huk did to hold Innovation Widow Mine Rushes? Yeah, he built a Cannon in his mineral line to avoid potentially dying to something they may or may not know is coming.

Sounds okay to me if both races have to do it.
cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
March 17 2013 03:58 GMT
#10900
taeja was defending those widow mines pretty well too, pretty unfortunate
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