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pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
March 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#681
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2

I met David Kim today!! Currently watching in the crowd with him and @liquidtlo ! #IEM

they should do an interview with him
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#682
Violet was dead once he went mutas and did no damage.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#683
On March 09 2013 20:17 Added wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 20:15 Nachor wrote:
But one thing bothers me a bit. I feel like Phoenix are too much of a hard counter to mutas now with 7 range. Once you get about 6 to 7 of them combined with range upgrade, it feels like they can kill almost infinite mutalisks.


They are designed as a hard counter to mutalisks. Without them, mass mutalisks are nearly invincible.


They counter all Zerg air though. They really need that key fungal.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#684
Omg! LG-IM everywhere...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#685
On March 09 2013 20:21 eXeZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 20:17 Added wrote:
On March 09 2013 20:15 Nachor wrote:
But one thing bothers me a bit. I feel like Phoenix are too much of a hard counter to mutas now with 7 range. Once you get about 6 to 7 of them combined with range upgrade, it feels like they can kill almost infinite mutalisks.


They are designed as a hard counter to mutalisks. Without them, mass mutalisks are nearly invincible.


But with them mutalisk seem useless
Crappy design


Nah, I think Zerg need to get used to Infestors again and just aim the fungal.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 09 2013 11:22 GMT
#686
On March 09 2013 20:20 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On March 09 2013 20:19 Bocian wrote:
ok so the phoenix outranges corruptors now? :D


They have the same range when the upgrade is in play I believe but a Phoenix can fire while moving and the Corruptor has to stand still and shoot which gives Phoenixes a pretty big advantage.

No, Corrupters have 6 range, Phoenixes have 7 with the upgrade, in addition to firing while moving and being much much faster.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 09 2013 11:23 GMT
#687
I heard LG-IM is a pretty good team
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 11:23:55
March 09 2013 11:23 GMT
#688
On March 09 2013 20:21 Ender985 wrote:
I have to say, good riddance to WoL PvZ. This air vs air dance is a hundred times more interesting to watch


dancing or not, assuming toss aint brain dead, phoenixes own mutas and corruptors now
oh in the sun sun having fun
mongoose22
Profile Joined July 2012
174 Posts
March 09 2013 11:23 GMT
#689
That additional phoenix range seems uber-strong. Corruptors really can't get a bead on them, either, so between that and the void rays eating them alive, corruptors don't seem to counter anything Protoss has in the air anymore.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 09 2013 11:23 GMT
#690
On March 09 2013 20:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I heard LG-IM is a pretty good team


They do ok ^_~
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
March 09 2013 11:23 GMT
#691
hm, not sure this is true what qxc is saying there were alot of cannons.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 11:24:34
March 09 2013 11:23 GMT
#692
Yup. Glad these guys are pointing out how critical this hesitation from Violet was. He could have done a TON of damage to First had he attacked immediately. From there he could have expanded and used a superior economic advantage to tech up to hive.

But instead he waited, and by the time he attacked First already had a good number of Phoenixes and the range upgrade already on the way thereby completely wasting his huge investment he made into that Mutalisk flock.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 09 2013 11:24 GMT
#693
Dunno if qxc realises that First has the bank to warp 6 stalkers ?
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
March 09 2013 11:24 GMT
#694
Bring old fungal back, just now it slows not roots, now sticky phoenix so muta can hit them
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 09 2013 11:24 GMT
#695
On March 09 2013 20:23 Vindicare605 wrote:
Yup. Glad these guys are pointing out how critical this hesitation from Violet was. He could have done a TON of damage to First had he attacked immediately. From there he could have expanded and used a superior economic advantage to tech up to hive.

Not to mention throwing away his hydras by amoving randomly into collosus.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
March 09 2013 11:24 GMT
#696
On March 09 2013 20:23 mongoose22 wrote:
That additional phoenix range seems uber-strong. Corruptors really can't get a bead on them, either, so between that and the void rays eating them alive, corruptors don't seem to counter anything Protoss has in the air anymore.


Corrupters are insanely good against carriers and tempests.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 09 2013 11:25 GMT
#697
I love how after 12 months of whining about Infestors, now people are suggesting maybe Infestors are the solution again. LOL.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 09 2013 11:25 GMT
#698
On March 09 2013 20:15 Titanidis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 20:14 Talack wrote:
dem tickle beams...

but seriously, have any of these zergs practiced HOTS? i havent seen anything new from them :S


you mean ret's swarm host plays or violet's viper abducts?


Yeah we saw swarm hosts, vipers, "new" hydras and "new" mutas today zvp, sorry that's all there is for zerg^^.

Hope Violet still wins this!

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
eXdeath
Profile Joined August 2011
France66 Posts
March 09 2013 11:25 GMT
#699
Maybe they should make the phoenixes start with 4 range.
And make the range upgrade like armor/weapon 3X +1.
+1 being available at the cybernetic core and +2 and +3 only unlocked when fleet beacon is built.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
March 09 2013 11:26 GMT
#700
The mutas successfully got him out of the Void Ray/Colossus invincible army at least. This composition is potentially defeatable, would've liked to see just a couple infestors mixed in.

Range phoenix look way too good against corruptors though, that should probably be looked at as I can't imagine they're intended to beat them.
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