EPT[IEM] World Championship Day 5 - Page 36
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spacemonkeyy
Australia477 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:23 mongoose22 wrote: That additional phoenix range seems uber-strong. Corruptors really can't get a bead on them, either, so between that and the void rays eating them alive, corruptors don't seem to counter anything Protoss has in the air anymore. they are quite great when they are in a combat. Which happens when the opponent has slower units that you can attack like Colossi. I'm really glad that such a boring unit isn't the end all AtA unit in the game. If something is needed in between Infestors, Hydras, Vipers which you can use to snipe single VRs and Colossi and Queens/Spores which are quite good for defense, I definatly hope that it is not going to be better Corruptors. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16090 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:25 sitromit wrote: I love how after 12 months of whining about Infestors, now people are suggesting maybe Infestors are the solution again. LOL. The infestor on HoTS is a mere shadow of the monster it is in WoL. It's a proper support unit that has specific uses instead of the generalist caster that counters everything that it is in WoL. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:24 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: Bring old fungal back, just now it slows not roots, now sticky phoenix so muta can hit them No? It still roots. I think the only change is that it's now a projectile which can be dodged with good until control. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
Very cool how much time changes stuff. At one point I remember popular zergs calling all maps with no 3 free easy to defend bases "shit maps." | ||
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mongoose22
174 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:24 Qikz wrote: Corrupters are insanely good against carriers and tempests. Ah, I did forget about the massive air, haven't really seen those all tournament. But Zerg still has a seemingly large gap in their current air superiority capabilities. | ||
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Thrillz
4313 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:26 Giriath wrote: No? It still roots. I think the only change is that it's now a projectile which can be dodged with good until control. I believe WoodLeagueAllStar was proposing having an old style "instant-cast" fungal, but updating it so instead of rooting it slows. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:25 eXdeath wrote: Maybe they should make the phoenixes start with 4 range. And make the range upgrade like armor/weapon 3X +1. +1 being available at the cybernetic core and +2 and +3 only unlocked when fleet beacon is built. fleet beacon is already required for +2 air | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Go first!! | ||
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Titanidis
Greece132 Posts
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:26 Giriath wrote: No? It still roots. I think the only change is that it's now a projectile which can be dodged with good until control. 10 range projectile that deals 30 damage to everything (used to deal 40 to armored). Yes, it still roots. No idea why the other guy think it would only slow. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:27 nomyx wrote: Very cool how much time changes stuff. At one point I remember popular zergs calling all maps with no 3 free easy to defend bases "shit maps." Entombed has long been a hated map of Zergs, and a haven for Protoss players. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:26 Kettchup wrote: The mutas successfully got him out of the Void Ray/Colossus invincible army at least. This composition is potentially defeatable, would've liked to see just a couple infestors mixed in. Range phoenix look way too good against corruptors though, that should probably be looked at as I can't imagine they're intended to beat them. I agree. Balance arguments aside though, I must say that Blizzard did a phenomenal job with Protoss in HotS; all units are viable and interesting now. + Show Spoiler + except the poor carrier  | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:26 Kettchup wrote: The mutas successfully got him out of the Void Ray/Colossus invincible army at least. This composition is potentially defeatable, would've liked to see just a couple infestors mixed in. Range phoenix look way too good against corruptors though, that should probably be looked at as I can't imagine they're intended to beat them. It's not the Void Ray/Colossus but the Void Ray/archon/templar that is the problem. Zerg needs to kill the protoss or cripple him economically before the Protoss reaches that composition. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:28 nomyx wrote: 10 range projectile that deals 30 damage to everything (used to deal 40 to armored). Yes, it still roots. No idea why the other guy think it would only slow. I believe he meant it as a suggestion. "They should Bring old fungal back, just now it slows not roots, now sticky phoenix so muta can hit them" | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3811 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:28 Aerisky wrote: Oh wow lol. Didn't realize how badly yonghwa would destroy ret. Go first!! koreans own white dudes | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 09 2013 20:28 sparklyresidue wrote: Entombed has long been a hated map of Zergs, and a haven for Protoss players. Indeed, but I'm also talking about maps like CK and Daybreak. At least CK is gone in the HotS ladder. Just need Daybreak to go too. | ||
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