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Nachor
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany83 Posts
March 09 2013 11:15 GMT
#641
But one thing bothers me a bit. I feel like Phoenix are too much of a hard counter to mutas now with 7 range. Once you get about 6 to 7 of them combined with range upgrade, it feels like they can kill almost infinite mutalisks.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
March 09 2013 11:15 GMT
#642
I'd go carriers in this situation <3
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
March 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#643
On March 09 2013 20:14 Talack wrote:
dem tickle beams...

but seriously, have any of these zergs practiced HOTS? i havent seen anything new from them :S

Ret used swarm hosts, violet uses vipers and "new" mutas. There aren't any new low tech options except for hatch tech burrow, which would be risky/cheese related. Or overlord speed, which seems unimportant. What do you want to see exactly?
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
March 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#644
jeez violet. crappy creep spread it would help with your hydra speed now that there's no colossi
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#645
First should just go Skytoss deathball+Templars
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 11:16:47
March 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#646
On March 09 2013 20:15 Tsubbi wrote:
plus maps like entombed with free 3rd bases may be obsolete for hots


Very much so.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#647
On March 09 2013 20:14 Talack wrote:
dem tickle beams...

but seriously, have any of these zergs practiced HOTS? i havent seen anything new from them :S

Violet had more than 4 times the number of games played on beta than First did.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#648
On March 09 2013 20:16 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 20:14 Talack wrote:
dem tickle beams...

but seriously, have any of these zergs practiced HOTS? i havent seen anything new from them :S

Ret used swarm hosts, violet uses vipers and "new" mutas. There aren't any new low tech options except for hatch tech burrow, which would be risky/cheese related. Or overlord speed, which seems unimportant. What do you want to see exactly?


mono swarmhost viper, no matter what the opponent does
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#649
It will probably take some time for zerg players to figure out how to handle all this new air protoss. I think infestor fungle will still have to play a key role.

Imagine if Violet could have locked those phoenixes in place and parked his mutas on them, then cleaned up First's entire army with his remaining mutas.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#650
Does the graviton beam range also increase with the range upgrade?
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 11:17:50
March 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#651
Now he needs banelings, which are so awesome vs. zealot HT. too bad no zergs do that.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 11:17:46
March 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#652
On March 09 2013 20:15 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2013 20:14 Talack wrote:
dem tickle beams...

but seriously, have any of these zergs practiced HOTS? i havent seen anything new from them :S

they did, and those mutas are "new". apparently the really new stuff isn't worth doing in their opinion or they don't think it works for them.


huh? we have seen every new unit zerg has during the last 2 hours....
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#653
On March 09 2013 20:15 Tsubbi wrote:
plus maps like entombed with free 3rd bases may be obsolete for hots


Speedivacs
Added
Profile Joined March 2013
United Kingdom40 Posts
March 09 2013 11:17 GMT
#654
On March 09 2013 20:15 Nachor wrote:
But one thing bothers me a bit. I feel like Phoenix are too much of a hard counter to mutas now with 7 range. Once you get about 6 to 7 of them combined with range upgrade, it feels like they can kill almost infinite mutalisks.


They are designed as a hard counter to mutalisks. Without them, mass mutalisks are nearly invincible.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
March 09 2013 11:18 GMT
#655
air to air and weak air to ground isn't an army. not a winning move
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 09 2013 11:18 GMT
#656
"this is up in the air"

10/10
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 09 2013 11:19 GMT
#657
On March 09 2013 20:18 n0ise wrote:
"this is up in the air"

10/10

Hahaha
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 09 2013 11:19 GMT
#658
Violet is 100% dead here, but doesn't seem like he's ready to gg.
Bocian
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland259 Posts
March 09 2013 11:19 GMT
#659
ok so the phoenix outranges corruptors now? :D
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 09 2013 11:20 GMT
#660
6 archons+ 15 stakers = 'a little bit of a counterattack'
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