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Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
Everything else is better for Protoss than before. slower creepspread (radius down from 10 to 8 and some addtionals seconds cause of the animation), mothership core and Hallucinations. You can't counter attack because of recall and timewarp functions almost as an additional twice as big forcefield which doesn't affect Protoss units. It's not like you can walk through a timewarp in that situation. Hydras and swarhmosts don't come in play early enough to deal with immortal All-in. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
Zerg goes 3 base vs 2 on protoss. 2 Decisions for protoss: 1. I'll go allin -> hard to counter, especially soul train. 2. I'll go 3base > due to building placements and sentries, zerg has a hard time going against that, so zerg goes macro -> Toss just kicks zerg's ass with a pre-hive mass stalker timing. If that fails, zerg wins. That's it! You can't get off that 3base vs 2base. Toss always on 2 base due to easy defense with forge and sentries. If zerg stays on 2 base, a bust or a nydus or a roach allin is almost impossible due to, surprise, forge and sentries! | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
Code B Mvp beat code S Stephano. How do you explain that!? | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:59 ALPINA wrote: Well yea zerg in first ~9 minutes or so in Hots is absolutely the same as in Wol except minor changes. It's the same in all ways except the exceptions  | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:01 FeyFey wrote: Omg Wizard spell totally stolen from the Mothership Alpha spell ! Blizzard stop stealing from your own games ! Omg Units that can attack totally stolen from Dune 2. I'm never going to play starcraft again!!!! | ||
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Headnoob
Australia2108 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:00 Fatmofo wrote: You guys just need to accept that if Stephano is not winning, then the game is obviously broken. Because he's like the best player of the world. Well duh, why bother trying to find a better way to beat a build when you can complain. Always worked for zerg before. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote: If you open two base, and he doesn't immortal push(Because there's no reason to anymore) then you're just behind...>_> Yeah, this is why PartinG's only scout was to check if Stephano had taken his third base. If not, he wont soul train. | ||
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grungust
United States325 Posts
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote: If you open two base, and he doesn't immortal push(Because there's no reason to anymore) then you're just behind...>_> Maybe zergs should just try to gamble vs Parting.. i mean, better behind than dead right? and if you gamble right you can get ahead.. of course this just fucking sucks from a zerg point of view ( no sarcasm here) | ||
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karpotoss
135 Posts
Also, he admitted he had been playing hots, for over a month 10 hours a day | ||
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govie
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:02 Gemini_sc2 wrote: Wouldn't you say the new Hatchery level burrow would help battle the Immortal sentry all-in? We saw how TLO Bane-bombed Grubby's sentries and the push is instantly denied. That's so much trouble to go through, as one observer can deny this. Though the slight delay in immortal build time might help | ||
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thirtyapm
521 Posts
how dare he make realistic estimates | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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hookyelyak
Egypt184 Posts
Choo choo, muhfukkas!!! | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:02 Liquid`TLO wrote: I think the only choice vs Immortal allin really is burrow play. Everything else is better for Protoss than before. slower creepspread (radius down from 10 to 8 and some addtionals seconds cause of the animation), mothership core and Hallucinations. You can't counter attack because of recall and timewarp functions almost as an additional twice as big forcefield which doesn't affect Protoss units. It's not like you can walk through a timewarp in that situation. Hydras and swarhmosts don't come in play early enough to deal with immortal All-in. What do you think of spine based defense (like Suppy) into tech, maybe even swarm hosts in HotS? Nice to see you dare to post in the LR thread! :D Hope you're enjoying the rest of IEM. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote: If you open two base, and he doesn't immortal push(Because there's no reason to anymore) then you're just behind...>_> Well you're going to be dead if you go standard. Almost all of the time when zerg defends it on ohana it's if they catch protoss off-guard, or when protoss screws up micro/forcefields etc. I don't know why people aren't doing spire vs immortal. If you go for fast lair you're gonna have so many mutas he wont be able to defend and it favors you in the base-trade. JD has done it a couple of times but he doesn't have such good timings like Life for example. DRG has done it nicely as well in the past. | ||
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Dragt
Germany73 Posts
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