EPT[IEM] World Championship Day 4 - Page 66
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karpotoss
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Orek
1665 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:02 Liquid`TLO wrote: Words of wisdom from a magician. Burrow tactics before observer arrival sounds interesting. Can't wait to see it!!I think the only choice vs Immortal allin really is burrow play. Everything else is better for Protoss than before. slower creepspread (radius down from 10 to 8 and some addtionals seconds cause of the animation), mothership core and Hallucinations. You can't counter attack because of recall and timewarp functions almost as an additional twice as big forcefield which doesn't affect Protoss units. It's not like you can walk through a timewarp in that situation. Hydras and swarhmosts don't come in play early enough to deal with immortal All-in. | ||
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Tegenaria
France379 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote: If you open two base, and he doesn't immortal push(Because there's no reason to anymore) then you're just behind...>_> Edit: This issue is literally only in ZvParting. Every other protoss gets shit on when they do this build. yeah its true you are behind but not far behind IMO and that's better than just die 100% of the time | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Left hand
Finland133 Posts
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:06 sitromit wrote: Stephano had more HotS games played than Parting, just saying. With Stephano's work ethic I doubt he managed to get as much experience in 2 months regarding HoTS as PartinG managed to get in 2 weeks. | ||
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Giriath
Sweden2412 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:00 grungust wrote: What does viper/swarm host have to do with what just happened? Those 2 units are completely irrelevant against the immortal all-in. I meant in general, because most of the whine is about balance in general. Very few players execute that all-in effectively and even then it's been stopped before, and I tend to avoid games played between players of unequal skill as examples of balance. In general, I think Zerg is the race that has to redevelop their strategies and tactics the most in HoTS. Imbalances or not, this means they will initially be behind as they figure out what works best. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:06 karpotoss wrote: Also isnt mass spine with muta base trade answer to that push? Base trade doesn't work anymore with recall tough. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:05 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote: Uhm you guys haven't seen the first Starcraft 2 gameplay trailer I suppose? That Time Warp (Bomb) was on the Mothership and slowed incoming projectiles down to zero and they then fell to the ground when time warp finished. Looked really, really badass! + Show Spoiler + Imagine if they had left black hole in the game instead of vortex. lol | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:07 Destructicon wrote: With Stephano's work ethic I doubt he managed to get as much experience in 2 months regarding HoTS as PartinG managed to get in 2 weeks. It has nothing to do with months and weeks. Mana said in an interview yesterday that Parting had only played around 40 HotS games before the tournament. We know for a fact that Stephano had played more than that, he had over 100 when I checked his account while beta was still up. | ||
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grungust
United States325 Posts
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:07 Assirra wrote: Base trade doesn't work anymore with recall tough. Might be able to snipe core with mutas then attack. Or just tech infestor or swarm host instead. | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:06 karpotoss wrote: Also isnt mass spine with muta base trade answer to that push? Yes, people have done it. With burow being at hatch it might be viable to get baneling nest as well. Snipe obs with mutas and then protoss has trouble getting to your nat if you have banes. Mutas are now much stronger in HotS, should be easier to base trade. | ||
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Asshat
593 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:56 Godwrath wrote: It's funny how only three days of a tournament of a game that isn't out yet is getting so much crying for balance. Happens when zerg isn't completely dominant and with a solid offensive and defensive answer at every point of the game. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10130 Posts
On March 08 2013 21:04 gOst wrote: I don't know if you are trying to be ironic or not, but doesn't this usually happen at the beginning of most games? Pretty much. | ||
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Warpish
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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