EPT[IEM] World Championship Day 4 - Page 55
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:40 Zelniq wrote: I think most ppl saying that parting was outplaying stephano, at least until he made the game losing decisions at the end So he outplayed stephano, until he was outplayed by stephano. It's almost as if "to outplay" simply means "to win". So meaningful. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:42 AxionSteel wrote: You're such a troll, he lost his first 5-7 ultras for free, maybe watch the game? he traded some badly. He didn't lose them for free. And in no way 10. | ||
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qcHanHan
Denmark74 Posts
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EZSkull
United States230 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:40 Kreig wrote: It's almost seems like the forums is not a single person. Who would've thought? didn't you know, a few say it, means it's the whole forum | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:40 Talaris wrote: yeah, but I have rarely seen ultras in WoL, perhaps b/c they just did 20 dps vs zealots and archons, so more than doubling the dmg output vs the counter units might make us see more ultra play now (?) Yeah, before you had to go banelings with that comp to break the zealot wall or your ultras just swiped for 2 minutes at the zealots while the rest of the protoss army blasted away at them from the back. Now you don't have to invest that much gas into banelings and baneling speed so you can get more ultras/faster upgrades/more infestors to support. If you can go into a ling - infestor or ling -muta midgame ultras are a nice option. This build sucks horribly vs protoss air though. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:41 FeyFey wrote: Well Protoss still has a chance against Ultras, if they have 8ish Immortals, Ultras die to fast to do damage and then you can safely transition into anything. Still Ultras will probably be one of the first units to be nerfed with HotS. Just imagine the fight where Parting cliff jumped without stephano having thrown away his Infestors before. I feel like if Ultra's get nerfed, it'll be for TvZ and not PvZ. Ultra's don't seem to be op at all in PvZ. That was just Parting not reacting to the Ultras at all. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:40 Zelniq wrote: I think most ppl saying that parting was outplaying stephano, at least until he made the game losing decisions at the end Which means that he didn't outplay Stephano imo. He had all the info he needed to react accordingly and counter what stephano was doing, but he made a poor composition and got rolled. | ||
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m0ck
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Deleted User 245622
184 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:41 Type|NarutO wrote: What goes against everything they tell you! Stone>Electro! :D dont think so... ground > electro and stone vs electro is neutral isnt it? | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:43 m0ck wrote: So he outplayed stephano, until he was outplayed by stephano. It's almost as if "to outplay" simply means "to win". So meaningful. And it's not like they are playing an expansion and are not familiar with the timings and optimal builds. It must just be them playing sloppy, nothing else. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:45 Megabuster123 wrote: I feel like if Ultra's get nerfed, it'll be for TvZ and not PvZ. Burrow charge was breaking TvZ, but these ultra are fine. They cleave marines like they are paper but you never made marines tank Ultralisk anyway. You were kitting with your marauders. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:45 Megabuster123 wrote: I feel like if Ultra's get nerfed, it'll be for TvZ and not PvZ. Ultra's don't seem to be op at all in PvZ. That was just Parting not reacting to the Ultras at all. I agree, im a toss player, and in WoL ultras were fucking useless in ZvP, they needed the buff... I'm not sure how strong they are in zvt though | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Orek
1665 Posts
So it is basically a big buff vs non-armor and a small nerf vs armor when upgraded. | ||
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CikaZombi
Serbia630 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:47 Ketch wrote: Extra queens will help vs Mothership Core and with transfuses, or not? Yes, extra queens are really good imo. | ||
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TripleOSeven
United States106 Posts
On March 08 2013 20:46 morlakaix wrote: I agree, im a toss player, and in WoL ultras were fucking useless in ZvP, they needed the buff... I'm not sure how strong they are in zvt though Ultras got the job done. Haha. | ||
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