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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:37:49
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1041
On March 08 2013 20:34 Waxangel wrote:
doh, I guess dragoons don't well against ultra-ling, even when they can teleport

Dragoon raped ultras without swarm
And got raped by lings of course.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1042
I feel that Stephano should do more transfuse on his ultras
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1043
Its nice to see Ultras in ZvP
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1044
Harstem gets it, he shouldn't have attacked there and just massed Void Rays.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33668 Posts
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1045
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-


Iron Tail!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1046
Stephano behind in game three: "OMG, SUCK SLOPPY PLAY, HEA THROWING STUFF AWAY, SO TERRIBLE."
Stephano wins game three: " OMG, STEPHANO'S SO GOOD, OUTPLAYED PARTING COMPLETELY."

Nice job forums. Please try to hide your bias.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1047
Another PartinG soul train incoming. Remember, I called it.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:39:07
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1048
On March 08 2013 20:37 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
I feel that Stephano should do more transfuse on his ultras


with burrow on low health ultra and trailing queens, ffart style.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1049
On March 08 2013 20:34 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:33 Dwayn wrote:
Thank god stephano didn't lose that one, he totally outplayed parting.


Yeah, those supply blocks were such a great mind game.

Give me a break, he faked parting into making like 20 cannons and the worst possible army composition against his. But hey HE GOT SUPPLY BLOCKED FOR 2 SECONDS AFTER GETTING OVERLORDS KILLED.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1050
On March 08 2013 20:38 emis wrote:
Stephano behind in game three: "OMG, SUCK SLOPPY PLAY, HEA THROWING STUFF AWAY, SO TERRIBLE."
Stephano wins game three: " OMG, STEPHANO'S SO GOOD, OUTPLAYED PARTING COMPLETELY."

Nice job forums. Please try to hide your bias.

Because it's always fun to watch Protoss doing timing attacks.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 08 2013 11:38 GMT
#1051
On March 08 2013 20:38 iSunrise wrote:
Another PartinG soul train incoming. Remember, I called it.


Bold prediction!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
March 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#1052
Stephano did a good job delaying with those mutas and lings
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#1053
On March 08 2013 20:38 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:34 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:33 Dwayn wrote:
Thank god stephano didn't lose that one, he totally outplayed parting.


Yeah, those supply blocks were such a great mind game.

Give me a break, he faked parting into making like 20 cannons and the worst possible army composition against his. But hey HE GOT SUPPLY BLOCKED FOR 2 SECONDS AFTER GETTING OVERLORDS KILLED.

PartinG has soul train. PartinG better.

(Seems to be a general consensus there)
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
March 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#1054
On March 08 2013 20:36 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:34 Pwnzer wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


What's different between a WOL ultra and a HOTS ultra?


They do the same damage vs everything instead of extra damage vs armored, it did not make a difference in this game, since parting built no zealots.


It is a bit like saying : hellbats are not strong, zerg made 0 lings this game.

Well, zerg probably made 0 lings because of the hellbats.

Same comparison here for ultra/zealot.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 08 2013 11:39 GMT
#1055
On March 08 2013 20:38 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:34 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:33 Dwayn wrote:
Thank god stephano didn't lose that one, he totally outplayed parting.


Yeah, those supply blocks were such a great mind game.

Give me a break, he faked parting into making like 20 cannons and the worst possible army composition against his. But hey HE GOT SUPPLY BLOCKED FOR 2 SECONDS AFTER GETTING OVERLORDS KILLED.


It happed more than just then, he supply blocked himself for a long time at least twice. Beyond the supply blocks on his OLs. He's just not playing so well this tournament, for whatever reason.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1056
On March 08 2013 20:38 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-


Iron Tail!

Grass knot*
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1057
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-

Heh, Pikachu beat Onyx in the anime.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1058
Stephano managed to get up 5 untouched bases but I think if parting had pulled back on scouting the ultra cavern and made either immortals or void rays he would have still won the game
Savant
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:41:36
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1059
On March 08 2013 20:37 Sakkreth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:33 Ketch wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


So what did change with ultras in hots?


Damage.

WoL:
Ground Attack: 15(+2) (Splash 33%)
Ground DPS: 17.4(+2.3)
Bonus: +20(+2) vs Armored
Bonus DPS: +23.2(+2.3) vs Armored

HoTS:
Ground Attack: 35(+3) (Splash 33%)
Ground DPS: 40.65(+3.5)
Thanks.
So, exactly the same except for probe, zealot, sentry, DT, and HT.

Edit: actually slightly worse vs armored when upgraded.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1060
hm, Muta-Ling into Infestor-Ultra-Ling sounds like a really good overall gameplan for ZvP. If the Toss does the Air-transition the Zerg already has the Spire and maybe even attack upgrades for Air in place.
And Ultralisks are quite strong against Zealots nowadays, Zealots don't tank nearly as much damage as they did in WoL.
So the Toss needs Immortal-Archon for ground army or he needs to pull off the air-transition which can be very risky.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
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