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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 08 2013 11:35 GMT
#1021
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 08 2013 11:35 GMT
#1022
Retje if you're reading this... CHEERING FOR YOU!

Gogogogogogo show how good you are!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1023
On March 08 2013 20:33 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


So what did change with ultras in hots?


Bonus damage became pure damage.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1024
On March 08 2013 20:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


What's different between a WOL ultra and a HOTS ultra?


It does the same damage to stalkers/colossi as in wol.

But now they crush light units and do 35 damage flat damage no matter what instead of 15 + 20 vs armored it's just flat out 35.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1025
I'm really starting to think zerg need to use Ultras more in ZvP. Maybe ultra, ling, infestor, viper and queen for a Protoss stupid enough not to build air?

Get rid of the lings and some ultras and replace them with hydras if the Protoss gets air.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1026
seemed like parting got lazy toward the end and just tried to hongun his was to victory.
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland766 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1027
On March 08 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On March 08 2013 20:32 nihlon wrote:
New ultralisks are pretty nice.


With +3 they do 39 damage in cleave to all armor types.

Yea. they are pretty good.


oww, so thats almost ~50dps with an additional 1/3 as splash ? o.0
No wonder everything melted that fast
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Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1028
On March 08 2013 20:35 rj rl wrote:
This looks stupid how zerg always has the bank to just add another 6-7 ultras and attack, although it has something to do with no harassment from P i guess.


that's kind of how zerg works
Savant
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1029
On March 08 2013 20:34 Pwnzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


What's different between a WOL ultra and a HOTS ultra?


They do the same damage vs everything instead of extra damage vs armored, it did not make a difference in this game, since parting built no zealots.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:38:14
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1030
On March 08 2013 20:34 JJH777 wrote:
Why are people saying ultras are better? Didn't they only get buffed vs light units.... Parting made like no zealots so that didn't even matter. Parting just threw that.

The new ultra discourages him from going zealots now though. But he should have gotten immortals sooner, he threw away a nice lead. It's a fallacy to say that ultra modern change made no difference there because he would have made light units had ultras been the same
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1031
the 7 minute 3rd nexus bild looks really strong, think protoss should add stargate though and start voidray as a transition rather then robo/twilight first
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1032
On March 08 2013 20:35 Caletor wrote:
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On March 08 2013 20:34 ALPINA wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:33 FeyFey wrote:
OMG stephano makes Ultras lose in HotS what the hell. Ah nevermind Ultras to strong to lose.


Yeah man you could never thought ultras counter mass stalkers?


you stupid? thats totally imbalanced. By theory blink stalker should counter everything zerg has. Also voidrays should only be the last resort vs ground massive melee


n1 dude.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1033
I just noticed since Mana is having a pretty good tournament he's getting pretty close to being the second foreigner to reach $100k in earnings
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
March 08 2013 11:36 GMT
#1034
On March 08 2013 20:34 blade55555 wrote:
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On March 08 2013 20:33 Sandermatt wrote:
ToD's advice seems to be based on WOL ultras. Zealots and archons do worse now that ultras do flat damage.


Archons are still good verse ultra. But chargelot/archon/immortal/templar will pwn ultra pretty bad parting stayed on stalker/colossi way way way to long.

Not the best switch when there is a greater spire ready. Parting knew it and he did not know what to do, he had a window, it's mroe inexperience of hots than anything, Stephano lost the 10 first ultras doing almost nothing with them.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1035
Would be fun if actually Stephano made it to 5th game :D
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1036
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-


Loool. Ash Parting!
Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1037
On March 08 2013 20:33 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


So what did change with ultras in hots?


Damage.

WoL:
Ground Attack: 15(+2) (Splash 33%)
Ground DPS: 17.4(+2.3)
Bonus: +20(+2) vs Armored
Bonus DPS: +23.2(+2.3) vs Armored

HoTS:
Ground Attack: 35(+3) (Splash 33%)
Ground DPS: 40.65(+3.5)
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1038
On March 08 2013 20:36 Talaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 nihlon wrote:
New ultralisks are pretty nice.


With +3 they do 39 damage in cleave to all armor types.

Yea. they are pretty good.


oww, so thats almost ~50dps with an additional 1/3 as splash ? o.0
No wonder everything melted that fast


They do the same damage to stalkers/colossi as they did in WoL.
When I think of something else, something will go here
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1039
Time warp doesnt affect Ultras right ? cos could see them slowing
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
March 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#1040
choo choo or moo moo.
Trains vs. cows.
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