• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:42
CEST 05:42
KST 12:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9325 users

[IEM] World Championship Day 4 - Page 54

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 177 Next
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1061
On March 08 2013 20:38 emis wrote:
Stephano behind in game three: "OMG, SUCK SLOPPY PLAY, HEA THROWING STUFF AWAY, SO TERRIBLE."
Stephano wins game three: " OMG, STEPHANO'S SO GOOD, OUTPLAYED PARTING COMPLETELY."

Nice job forums. Please try to hide your bias.

I think most ppl saying that parting was outplaying stephano, at least until he made the game losing decisions at the end
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1062
On March 08 2013 20:36 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:34 blade55555 wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:33 Sandermatt wrote:
ToD's advice seems to be based on WOL ultras. Zealots and archons do worse now that ultras do flat damage.


Archons are still good verse ultra. But chargelot/archon/immortal/templar will pwn ultra pretty bad parting stayed on stalker/colossi way way way to long.

Not the best switch when there is a greater spire ready. Parting knew it and he did not know what to do, he had a window, it's mroe inexperience of hots than anything, Stephano lost the 10 first ultras doing almost nothing with them.


Haha... funny how those numbers change...
first comments were like "losing a few ultralisks for free". Then it was 5. Then 7. now it's 10.
I'm pretty sure he also lost 50infestors!
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland766 Posts
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1063
On March 08 2013 20:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:36 Talaris wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 nihlon wrote:
New ultralisks are pretty nice.


With +3 they do 39 damage in cleave to all armor types.

Yea. they are pretty good.


oww, so thats almost ~50dps with an additional 1/3 as splash ? o.0
No wonder everything melted that fast


They do the same damage to stalkers/colossi as they did in WoL.


yeah, but I have rarely seen ultras in WoL, perhaps b/c they just did 20 dps vs zealots and archons, so more than doubling the dmg output vs the counter units might make us see more ultra play now (?)
-= Jaedong // HerO // HasuObs // Best // Rush =-
Kreig
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany79 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:41:19
March 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#1064
On March 08 2013 20:38 emis wrote:
Stephano behind in game three: "OMG, SUCK SLOPPY PLAY, HEA THROWING STUFF AWAY, SO TERRIBLE."
Stephano wins game three: " OMG, STEPHANO'S SO GOOD, OUTPLAYED PARTING COMPLETELY."

Nice job forums. Please try to hide your bias.


It's almost seems like the forums is not a single person. Who would've thought?
Loading...
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1065
On March 08 2013 20:38 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:34 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:33 Dwayn wrote:
Thank god stephano didn't lose that one, he totally outplayed parting.


Yeah, those supply blocks were such a great mind game.

Give me a break, he faked parting into making like 20 cannons and the worst possible army composition against his. But hey HE GOT SUPPLY BLOCKED FOR 2 SECONDS AFTER GETTING OVERLORDS KILLED.


Dunno if you were actually watching his supply but he was supply blocked at 3 different points in the game AT LEAST.
Herp Derp
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1066
On March 08 2013 20:36 Talaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 nihlon wrote:
New ultralisks are pretty nice.


With +3 they do 39 damage in cleave to all armor types.

Yea. they are pretty good.


oww, so thats almost ~50dps with an additional 1/3 as splash ? o.0
No wonder everything melted that fast

not splash full dmg to cone
64K RAM SYSTEM 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1067
On March 08 2013 20:40 Savant.GL wrote:
Stephano managed to get up 5 untouched bases but I think if parting had pulled back on scouting the ultra cavern and made either immortals or void rays he would have still won the game

My point exactly!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1068
On March 08 2013 20:40 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-

Heh, Pikachu beat Onyx in the anime.


What goes against everything they tell you! Stone>Electro! :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1069
Well Protoss still has a chance against Ultras, if they have 8ish Immortals, Ultras die to fast to do damage and then you can safely transition into anything.
Still Ultras will probably be one of the first units to be nerfed with HotS. Just imagine the fight where Parting cliff jumped without stephano having thrown away his Infestors before.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1070
On March 08 2013 20:38 emis wrote:
Stephano behind in game three: "OMG, SUCK SLOPPY PLAY, HEA THROWING STUFF AWAY, SO TERRIBLE."
Stephano wins game three: " OMG, STEPHANO'S SO GOOD, OUTPLAYED PARTING COMPLETELY."

Nice job forums. Please try to hide your bias.


Uh, the general consensus seems to be that PartinG didn't transition right when he saw ultras, not that Stephano played well.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1071
On March 08 2013 20:38 emis wrote:
Stephano behind in game three: "OMG, SUCK SLOPPY PLAY, HEA THROWING STUFF AWAY, SO TERRIBLE."
Stephano wins game three: " OMG, STEPHANO'S SO GOOD, OUTPLAYED PARTING COMPLETELY."

Nice job forums. Please try to hide your bias.


Who would have thought different people are posting different opinions based on who is on the winning side.

IT'S INTERNETZ MADNESS!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1072
On March 08 2013 20:38 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-


Iron Tail!

Should use Grass Knot instead. :p
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:42:17
March 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#1073
On March 08 2013 20:40 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-

Heh, Pikachu beat Onyx in the anime.


Ash makes anything work with the power of the heart and his true love for Pokemon.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
March 08 2013 11:42 GMT
#1074
On March 08 2013 20:39 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:36 Musicus wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:34 Pwnzer wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:32 Geos13 wrote:
Wow ultralisks really are better


What's different between a WOL ultra and a HOTS ultra?


They do the same damage vs everything instead of extra damage vs armored, it did not make a difference in this game, since parting built no zealots.


It is a bit like saying : hellbats are not strong, zerg made 0 lings this game.

Well, zerg probably made 0 lings because of the hellbats.

Same comparison here for ultra/zealot.



Well yes, but you will agree that Geos13 thought they are better vs stalkers/colossi now right? (Which is by no means bad, just wanted to clear things up).
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
March 08 2013 11:42 GMT
#1075
On March 08 2013 20:35 Cuce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:34 Cinim wrote:
Ultralisk not better than wol in this scenario, they are only better vs light units, dmg to armored is the same


not really, same dmg to light means, its pretty useless to use zealots to tank ultras since ultra aoe just melts trhem down. which means it more usefull to mass stalekrs intead


I'm sorry to tell you that you're outright wrong. In WoL it was best to just have archon stalker, but actually spread them out. Parting decided to stack up the stalkers so that they take aoe(when you have a lot of archons as well, the lings is not a major factor) and maybe some immortals. Same goes for hots where the best counter is simply archon, immortal and some stalkers to fill out. Parting just don't seem to get that ultralisk have some mean aoe damage. Also, in wol you have plenty of infestors which render the zealots useless.
Hell, it's about time
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 08 2013 11:42 GMT
#1076
On March 08 2013 20:40 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:36 nojok wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:34 blade55555 wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:33 Sandermatt wrote:
ToD's advice seems to be based on WOL ultras. Zealots and archons do worse now that ultras do flat damage.


Archons are still good verse ultra. But chargelot/archon/immortal/templar will pwn ultra pretty bad parting stayed on stalker/colossi way way way to long.

Not the best switch when there is a greater spire ready. Parting knew it and he did not know what to do, he had a window, it's mroe inexperience of hots than anything, Stephano lost the 10 first ultras doing almost nothing with them.


Haha... funny how those numbers change...
first comments were like "losing a few ultralisks for free". Then it was 5. Then 7. now it's 10.
I'm pretty sure he also lost 50infestors!

You're such a troll, he lost his first 5-7 ultras for free, maybe watch the game?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 08 2013 11:42 GMT
#1077
gl hf zergman
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 08 2013 11:43 GMT
#1078
gl;hf SKTParting

gl;hf zergman

lol
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 08 2013 11:43 GMT
#1079
On March 08 2013 20:41 Herect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:40 Boucot wrote:
On March 08 2013 20:35 Type|NarutO wrote:
PartinG would suck in Pokemon. Sending out Pikachu vs Onix -_-

Heh, Pikachu beat Onyx in the anime.


Ash makes anything work with the power of the heart and his true love for Pokemon.


And the fact, that sprinklers doused Onyx in water causing him to absorb pikachu's thundershock. Thus making brock think "fuck this" and joined Ash on his travels xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
March 08 2013 11:43 GMT
#1080
Never noticed how ugly the IEM overlay is before the casters mentionned it ><
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 177 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 1
CranKy Ducklings156
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft519
RuFF_SC2 205
EnDerr 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Bale 131
sSak 82
910 58
NaDa 53
sorry 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
Icarus 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm277
PGG 163
Other Games
summit1g12687
JimRising 552
C9.Mang0336
PiGStarcraft204
Livibee147
ViBE78
Trikslyr75
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2210
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 92
• davetesta25
• Sammyuel 13
• Letter148
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo597
Upcoming Events
GSL
7h 18m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
11h 18m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
15h 18m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
20h 18m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 6h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 7h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.