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[IEM] World Championship Day 3 - Page 71
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Luolis
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can't wait to watch mvp vs dream, korean tvt is so good | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:01 monkybone wrote: My take on mvp vs golden is that widow mines accompanying bio allows for faster aggression than tanks, while still maintaining good cost-efficiency, something pure bio doesn't. The old Zerg defensive play does not work as well anymore. Beating an army of MMM and widow mines does not strike as huge of a blow to Terran as losing a handful of tanks. So the overwhelming strategy used by Zerg is not as effective anymore. That is, massing units like Zerglings and banelings (together with infestors) to just crush armies. Terran reinforcements will eventually overwhelm the Zerg doing this strategy. If Zerg is to go for the fast 3rd into a relatively fast 4th vs Terran 2-3 base aggression they will need to develop better ways to defend. Mutas may be obligatory in order to defend while keeping drops in check. Or they could do more aggressive timings. Either way, the meta needs to change, it favors Terran now. Yeah, window mines shreds Ling/Bling. I honestly think if the MMMM gets really popular you'll be seeing more roaches in ZvT compositions as their high hp (145) prevents them from being 1 shot from the mines and can take multiple splash damage hits before they die. | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:04 Everlong wrote: Seems like all matchups are shaked but TvP (and PvP?)... From what I've seen, everything has changed except for TvP (beyond early game) | ||
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dinosrwar
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On March 07 2013 21:06 WigglingSquid wrote: Grubby doesn't quite seem to be on top of his macro today. He was trying to remember if Europe was a country or a continent for a minute and couldn't be bothered to macro. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Should really be standard to start Phoenix production as soon as you see Muta. 5 pheonix can deal with unlimited Mutas with the 5 range now. And You're not stuck building only stalkers. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:06 nomyx wrote: Yeah, window mines shreds Ling/Bling. I honestly think if the MMMM gets really popular you'll be seeing more roaches in ZvT compositions as their high hp (145) prevents them from being 1 shot from the mines and can take multiple splash damage hits before they die. Roach Hydra Viper ZvT is really good, waiting for someone to showcase it here. Ragnarok did it a few times in the GSTL pre season to great effect. | ||
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dinosrwar
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On March 07 2013 21:07 Dodgin wrote: Roach Hydra Viper ZvT is really good, waiting for someone to showcase it here. Ragnarok did it a few times in the GSTL pre season to great effect. Violet crushed his group with roach/hydra/viper. Good times. | ||
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Spitmode
Germany1510 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:07 Dodgin wrote: Roach Hydra Viper ZvT is really good, waiting for someone to showcase it here. Ragnarok did it a few times in the GSTL pre season to great effect. I really feel bio tanks with a very early 2nd and 3rd factory just destroy roach hydra viper. You may have blinding cloud, but when terranmove out with 15 tanks, it's still really hard. | ||
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Bowzar
Sweden741 Posts
On March 07 2013 20:59 opterown wrote: wow, what a strange reference. wonder who runs that twitter Korean humor is very odd. | ||
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