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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 07 2013 12:00 GMT
#1381
Why did TLO make the lair there? O_O
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 12:03:51
March 07 2013 12:01 GMT
#1382
--- Nuked ---
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 07 2013 12:01 GMT
#1383
why make the spire there?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#1384
Zerg players and their unconscious building placement... -_-
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
March 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#1385
God damn missed Stephano vs Grubby how was the matches?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25530 Posts
March 07 2013 12:03 GMT
#1386
On March 07 2013 20:58 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 20:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 07 2013 20:49 Lunareste wrote:
On March 07 2013 20:44 opterown wrote:
yes, i get the mvp = awesome comments, but golden didn't play thaaattt badly and just got rolled, it was nowhere close at any stage. maybe i'm just used to mediocre zergs beating good terrans haha


Golden didn't play badly, but there was nowhere near enough base defense. Mvp is being dominant and microing well.

I get what you're saying about Zergs being dominate against Terrans 2 weeks ago, but this is freaking Mvp, there's only supposed to be a handful of Zergs in the world who can compete with him.

Maybe this is me being biased, but I like that Zerg tech is being slowed down substantially by new Terran units and strategies. Not only does it make for less stagnant games, we've also seen a variety of games and playstyles within this series on its own. Swarmy zerg, positional Zerg, multitask Terran, position Terran. It's pretty awesome.

Zergs have to learn to actually play well and micro a bit more. It'll come. If anything Zergs have been harmed the most in the medium term by the, let's say 'strong' state of Zerg in the end of WoL, their play naturally stagnated imo.


Are we allowed to talk about balance in old expansions without fear of reprecussion on TL?

I don't think that their play or skill stagnated per say, but I do think that they aren't used to a meta where they can't forsake units throughout until a push is coming, and tech all the way to hive and be nearly invulnerable to Terran timings.

I think that the "extreme" nature of the Zerg playstyle is coming back to bite them right now though. Either they were playing heavy economy/tech style backed by Queens, or they were switching to an extreme pressure/heavy all in when they sensed a Terran was playing greedy. Their defenses are vulnerable in the mid game now, and most of their "instantly switch to Roach/Bane and run over the Terran base while he's trying to keep up with my economy and not teching" has been wiped out by the Siege Tank research buff and Widow Mines. I think once they find the middle ground in the new expansion, much like it was prior to the Queen patch, they'll be fine.

Better analysis than mine. The opposite side of my coin, Terrans being forced to develop obscene micro may now benefit them in this period of flux.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 12:04:23
March 07 2013 12:03 GMT
#1387
TLO going to make so much mutas when the spire finishes, and he gets them to finish

Edit: 16 more lol
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#1388
Did Grubby forget to rebuild his MC?
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#1389
Why isn't Grubby teching? He's floating 1,5k mins/gas and just sits on the money.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
March 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#1390
What the heck is Grubby doing he's not making anything and is over 1500/1500..?
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 07 2013 12:04 GMT
#1391
Seems like all matchups are shaked but TvP (and PvP?)...
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1392
It's a flock of mutalists.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1393
2k/2k?
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1394
On March 07 2013 21:04 JJH777 wrote:
What the heck is Grubby doing he's not making anything and is over 1500/1500..?


Good question
dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1395
2k/2k bank for Grubby. Blah.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1396
Grubby floating so much for ages...moving out with 140 supply whilst floating 1600 minerals and gas
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1397
TLO with the mutas into mutas transition catching Grubby off guard!
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1398
It's hard to explain Grubby's bank...
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1399
How did they have so much bank?
Radioman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada904 Posts
March 07 2013 12:05 GMT
#1400
floating 2k/2k ?
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