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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 04 2013 01:47 GMT
#541
On March 04 2013 09:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 09:39 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:20 Plansix wrote:
I am starting to think Idra doesnt GG on propose just to make sure there is tons of dram, even if he loses. God knows SC2 fans love the drama.


Entirely untrue.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992

I wonder what it would be like if we had threads like these now

There was a Rekrul thread a year or two back. Rekrul eventually made a post saying Nazgul had told him to behave, so I guess the rules are a little more strict now. It's reasonable, there's many more users to police today and if they all thought they could be like Rekrul it'd be a mess.
Who dat ninja?
Laekoth
Profile Joined September 2010
United States45 Posts
March 04 2013 01:47 GMT
#542
The posts that talk about not GGing being bad manners are downright ridiculous. Leaving a game when you think it's over without saying GG isn't automatically a rage quit, yet so many of you love to assume things. I really doubt Idra was that angry, but I'm sure he wasn't happy.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
March 04 2013 01:49 GMT
#543
On March 04 2013 08:48 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 08:20 TheButtonmen wrote:
I think my main issue with ZvP in HotS at the moment is actually photon cannons, the second toss can afford to drop 5-6 cannons at an expo it becomes utterly immune to any form of zerg harassment. I can accept that zerg is lacking on good anti-air because it's a racial thing, I don't even mind the toss final deathball being unbeatable because that again is a racial thing but the inability to pick apart / multitask the toss death with a thousand cuts has really been bothering me.

I'd love to see better zergs then me working to re-incorperate baneling drops back into their play now that you have blinding cloud to stop stalkers blinking in and knocking the ovies down / forcing stalkers to burn blink to get out from under blinding cloud. Overlord of banes also allows you to still hurt the toss econ once cannons are up because you can still just drop directly onto the worker line if they don't react in time to pull the workers.


You say that as if 5-6 cannons isn't expensive. It's basically two additional nexii's worth of money, and unless you spend another nexus on pylons so you can't just snipe 1/2 pylons to shut the whole network down, it's a pretty flimsy defense. In ZvT people were/are willing to make 20+banelings to take down a PF, why not do the same thing for cannons?


Oh no doubt it's expensive, I'm talking about the mid-late game for sure but you don't need 3-4 pylons as long as you simcity properly. The issues I've found with large quanitites of banes in ZvP is unlike in ZvT banes aren't part of your primary army due to the Toss AoE / FF's and lack of good targets. You also need to spend your gas on infestors / corrupters at that stage in the game where as you can skimp on gas and invest in speedlings in ZvT. Warp in's can also complicate matters though they aren't that large of a factor when you're right clicking enough banes into something.
VitiumHK
Profile Joined May 2012
United States32 Posts
March 04 2013 01:49 GMT
#544
On March 04 2013 10:47 Laekoth wrote:
The posts that talk about not GGing being bad manners are downright ridiculous. Leaving a game when you think it's over without saying GG isn't automatically a rage quit, yet so many of you love to assume things. I really doubt Idra was that angry, but I'm sure he wasn't happy.


is this the first MLG Idra doesn't get to go to? he prob. raged if that's the case
threesxmafia
Profile Joined December 2010
United States131 Posts
March 04 2013 01:55 GMT
#545
haha, idra fanboys don't recommend any of the games. i knew minigun would win, but i expected 3-1.
this is the only thing worth giving your life for. RIP TSL + RIP KT Violet
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 04 2013 01:58 GMT
#546
Haha, expected result. Been watching Minigun's HotS stream and he's playing very nicely lately.
lol @ Idra.

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 01:59:01
March 04 2013 01:58 GMT
#547
On March 04 2013 10:55 threesxmafia wrote:
haha, idra fanboys don't recommend any of the games. i knew minigun would win, but i expected 3-1.

To be fair, the games weren't really that good. Last one was ok
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Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
March 04 2013 02:06 GMT
#548
People really need to calm down... everyone screams idra not relevant. idra not relevant. So yea he lost. I don't really care about idra/miniguns success. if we compare them both. Minigun hasn't really ever been relevant.... so bringing that argument up is stupid. Idra still does well when he doesn't rage and Minigun has been doing well in HoTs (so far, I don't see him having any chance of beating life, but w/e)

Its frustrating to read stuff when people just rage about Idra raging. He's NEVER liked Minigun (or at least never gg'd him). That's they way it is. Idra in his prime could take series' off top koreans. and he showed at WCS that he still has that capability(at least sometimes).

The relevancy arguments are kinda stupid right now. When idra starts consistently losing to lower caliber players. then people can take note. As of now. He hasn't and minigun hasn't started consistently taking games off high level players. Its pointless raging. HoTs will also probably get additional balance patches on launchday/shortly after. SO w/e People just really need to chill.
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
a2thej
Profile Joined June 2012
9 Posts
March 04 2013 02:12 GMT
#549
People need to remember that Minigun has never lost a series to Idra

ever :D This was nothing new
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
March 04 2013 02:19 GMT
#550
chad motherfucking jones!
:-)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 04 2013 02:27 GMT
#551
On March 04 2013 05:03 The_Templar wrote:
Idra 3-0

Ok... I was a little bit off...
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 04 2013 02:33 GMT
#552
On March 04 2013 10:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 10:55 threesxmafia wrote:
haha, idra fanboys don't recommend any of the games. i knew minigun would win, but i expected 3-1.

To be fair, the games weren't really that good. Last one was ok


The context made the games hilarious though
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
March 04 2013 02:42 GMT
#553
On March 04 2013 10:02 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 09:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:39 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:20 Plansix wrote:
I am starting to think Idra doesnt GG on propose just to make sure there is tons of dram, even if he loses. God knows SC2 fans love the drama.


Entirely untrue.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992

I wonder what it would be like if we had threads like these now


Any of the Destiny threads in 2012 were pretty hate-filled but I see your point. My point was just that I'm sick of people saying that famous SC2 people (mostly IdrA and Day[9]) are putting on some sort of act, since I go through old threads occasionally and know it's not true.


I am not sure about Idra, but I swear I saw a mod here confirmed that Day[9] is very different in real life.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 04 2013 03:49 GMT
#554
On March 04 2013 11:42 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:39 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:20 Plansix wrote:
I am starting to think Idra doesnt GG on propose just to make sure there is tons of dram, even if he loses. God knows SC2 fans love the drama.


Entirely untrue.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992

I wonder what it would be like if we had threads like these now


Any of the Destiny threads in 2012 were pretty hate-filled but I see your point. My point was just that I'm sick of people saying that famous SC2 people (mostly IdrA and Day[9]) are putting on some sort of act, since I go through old threads occasionally and know it's not true.


I am not sure about Idra, but I swear I saw a mod here confirmed that Day[9] is very different in real life.

IdrA also said similar things about day9, even though they are friends (i think)

ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
March 04 2013 06:56 GMT
#555
Game 1, idra should have really made at least a spore per base knowing how cheap DTs are in Hots.
Game 2, idra stayed too long on T2, vipers would definitely changed the outcome.
Game 3, well this one is sad, and people still call ultras too strong lol..
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 04 2013 07:21 GMT
#556
On March 04 2013 10:47 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 09:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:39 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:20 Plansix wrote:
I am starting to think Idra doesnt GG on propose just to make sure there is tons of dram, even if he loses. God knows SC2 fans love the drama.


Entirely untrue.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992

I wonder what it would be like if we had threads like these now

There was a Rekrul thread a year or two back. Rekrul eventually made a post saying Nazgul had told him to behave, so I guess the rules are a little more strict now. It's reasonable, there's many more users to police today and if they all thought they could be like Rekrul it'd be a mess.


No. You have to earn your right to talk smack. Dan gets a lot and I mean a lot of leeway because he's Dan and it is their house. Dan's a pretty blunt guy like myself and there's a reason why they took away his benevolent hammer. Besides he has better things to do. He wasn't that good at Starcraft either, but you know what it was smart on his decision to say screw it I can take people's money through poker and win the old money match of BW from time to time. Props to him for that.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 04 2013 07:26 GMT
#557
On March 04 2013 11:42 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:39 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:20 Plansix wrote:
I am starting to think Idra doesnt GG on propose just to make sure there is tons of dram, even if he loses. God knows SC2 fans love the drama.


Entirely untrue.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992

I wonder what it would be like if we had threads like these now


Any of the Destiny threads in 2012 were pretty hate-filled but I see your point. My point was just that I'm sick of people saying that famous SC2 people (mostly IdrA and Day[9]) are putting on some sort of act, since I go through old threads occasionally and know it's not true.


I am not sure about Idra, but I swear I saw a mod here confirmed that Day[9] is very different in real life.


Just an FYI day 9 himself has said this that in real life he is different then how he acts on the day 9 daily's. He has said this multiple times and has never tried to hide that fact either.

To be honest these games were very disappointing I was hoping idra would play... well better or use a better composition . Roach/hydra imo is just garbage verse a protoss who knows what he is doing and yeah. Although idra should have won games 2 and 3, he threw those pretty bad which was also pretty unfortunate, game 2 he just never teched right (stayed roach/hydra so died to a 2-3 colossi push off of 2 base) then game 3 he just left to early he still had that but whatever.
When I think of something else, something will go here
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 07:31:46
March 04 2013 07:31 GMT
#558
On March 04 2013 16:26 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 11:42 forumtext wrote:
On March 04 2013 10:02 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:39 jalstar wrote:
On March 04 2013 09:20 Plansix wrote:
I am starting to think Idra doesnt GG on propose just to make sure there is tons of dram, even if he loses. God knows SC2 fans love the drama.


Entirely untrue.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=51992

I wonder what it would be like if we had threads like these now


Any of the Destiny threads in 2012 were pretty hate-filled but I see your point. My point was just that I'm sick of people saying that famous SC2 people (mostly IdrA and Day[9]) are putting on some sort of act, since I go through old threads occasionally and know it's not true.


I am not sure about Idra, but I swear I saw a mod here confirmed that Day[9] is very different in real life.


Just an FYI day 9 himself has said this that in real life he is different then how he acts on the day 9 daily's. He has said this multiple times and has never tried to hide that fact either.

To be honest these games were very disappointing I was hoping idra would play... well better or use a better composition . Roach/hydra imo is just garbage verse a protoss who knows what he is doing and yeah. Although idra should have won games 2 and 3, he threw those pretty bad which was also pretty unfortunate, game 2 he just never teched right (stayed roach/hydra so died to a 2-3 colossi push off of 2 base) then game 3 he just left to early he still had that but whatever.


I really don't think he had G3. I mean minigun still had 5 voids, 2 archons, immortal and a great economy. He would definitely had storms in place for next battle, as well as collossus. Idra's 3K he had banked would have just melted vs. that combo.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 04 2013 08:21 GMT
#559
good job minigun

too bad he has to play life first round lol.
Maruprime.
SirPinky
Profile Joined February 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 09:01:46
March 04 2013 08:58 GMT
#560
At what point do wannabe "badasses" just become "bad." I'm a Terran player that watches Idra's stream from time-to-time just for the comedy and drama. But it becomes old quick. After seeing the same "FU #%@#@#" it gets kind of monotonous. I've seen his steam count dwindle over the last year from 11k to to around 3k or less - talk is becoming cheap. I'd like to see him come up with something innovative instead of moving his hands really fast and expect an "autowin". I've played him on ladder several times and I just play this for fun ; that should say something about MMR.

This match is an example of someone that needs to get some manners and not consider every match imbalanced - especially when they leave a match, which many would consider Zerg being "ahead".
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