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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:45 Alak wrote: I would join you in a heartbeat. Quick, someone introduce Rocky Horror to the proteams! I want them to dream Meatloaf and breathe Tim Curry! I want Gom to put on Rocky Horror as a stage show. Khaldor will be Rocky. Artosis will be Dr Frank-N-Furter | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
after all, a generic lategame wol zvp might have been voted one of the best games ever had it happened in early 2011, since it would have been different. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote: Right now it definitely is. Mutalisks dominate the match up in a big way. Yes this. Every matchup is better except ZvZ, which is sad because ZvZ was definitely the most improved at the close of WoL. I still have hope though. | ||
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Herect
Brazil216 Posts
No turtle Zergs, less abusable composition and more micro intensive units make it better alone. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:46 opterown wrote: i think hots looks good in terms of gameplay just because it is new, and we haven't seen much of it. can't really say much about whether it might become stale over time. after all, a generic lategame wol zvp might have been voted one of the best games ever had it happened in early 2011, since it would have been different. This. Also there will be tons of nerfs, buffs and tweaks. I predict that swarm hosts will be nerfed into nonexistence. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:46 opterown wrote: i think hots looks good in terms of gameplay just because it is new, and we haven't seen much of it. can't really say much about whether it might become stale over time. after all, a generic lategame wol zvp might have been voted one of the best games ever had it happened in early 2011, since it would have been different. Yeah, I agree. Tentatively there appears to be a lot more room for different kinds of controlling space in the late game, and every race seems to have more options in every phase of the game overall. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:46 Heartland wrote: I want Gom to put on Rocky Horror as a stage show. Khaldor will be Rocky. Artosis will be Dr Frank-N-Furter I don't know if I could handle Artosis in drag. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:47 Herect wrote: I don't think it will be like Broodwar, since SC vanilla is so much worst than its expansion, but i think HotS will be a lot better than WoL. No turtle Zergs, less abusable composition and more micro intensive units make it better alone. I hope it will not be like Broodwar... WoL was already more fun to play! | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:46 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Yes this. Every matchup is better except ZvZ, which is sad because ZvZ was definitely the most improved at the close of WoL. I still have hope though. DUDE, no matchup was as improved as PvP. It went from 4gate every single game to sometimes carrier lategame. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:47 DarkLordOlli wrote: This. Also there will be tons of nerfs, buffs and tweaks. I predict that swarm hosts will be nerfed into nonexistence. It seems like they are already in nonexistence, I'm not seeing them be used in GSTL. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16117 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:47 DarkLordOlli wrote: This. Also there will be tons of nerfs, buffs and tweaks. I predict that swarm hosts will be nerfed into nonexistence. I disagree very much so. I think the Swarm Host will inevitably be one of the best new additions to the game once players figure out how to use it and counter it properly. I'm saying this more on faith but there's a lot of glimpses of potential in the unit that I've seen that make me hopeful about it. | ||
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MiraMax
Germany532 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:42 Alak wrote: This is true, and I apologize. I guess madness takes its toll. No worries. I agree that like many other HOTS innovations time warp still lacks a bit of that pelvic thrust that really drives you insane... | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:47 Heartland wrote: Yeah, I agree. Tentatively there appears to be a lot more room for different kinds of controlling space in the late game, and every race seems to have more options in every phase of the game overall. Which is why it should be better. Not including another Queen range patch of course lol. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: DUDE, no matchup was as improved as PvP. It went from 4gate every single game to sometimes carrier lategame. I actually think pvp got worse lol over time in wol lol. | ||
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SC2ShoWTimE
Germany722 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:44 DarkLordOlli wrote: Ravens are ridiculously good lategame with Ghosts and a mech composition yea lol just watch thorzain. an army out of raven/viking/battle cruiser/ghost and some tanks is basically impossible to beat as protoss. mass pdd soak up stalker/tempest shots for ever. ghost beat ht with good control and hunter seeker missile or yamato cannon deal massive damage to carrier and tempest. vikings destroy void rays/colossai. there is not much you can do in a direct fight. maybe it isnt impossible to beat but it is super cost effective. it is difficult to get there of course. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: DUDE, no matchup was as improved as PvP. It went from 4gate every single game to sometimes carrier lategame. 4gate into collosus wars :p | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16117 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:49 bo1b wrote: I actually think pvp got worse lol over time in wol lol. I think so too. I'd rather watch 10 4 gate games than have to sit through a single 40 minute game of LAZER WARS. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:48 Vindicare605 wrote: I disagree very much so. I think the Swarm Host will inevitably be one of the best new additions to the game once players figure out how to use it and counter it properly. I'm saying this more on faith but there's a lot of glimpses of potential in the unit that I've seen that make me hopeful about it. I think it'll be the worst addition once it's figured out, lol. It forces all ins and I hate that. People don't appreciate PvP enough. Yeah it's lots of laz0r wars but at least getting there is interesting. More interesting than 4gate wars at least. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16117 Posts
On February 25 2013 19:49 SC2ShoWTimE wrote: yea lol just watch thorzain. an army out of raven/viking/battle cruiser/ghost and some tanks is basically impossible to beat as protoss. mass pdd soak up stalker/tempest shots for ever. ghost beat ht with good control and hunter seeker missile or yamato cannon deal massive damage to carrier and tempest. vikings destroy void rays/colossai. there is not much you can do in a direct fight. maybe it isnt impossible to beat but it is super cost effective. That sounds like Thorzain. Obvious problem with that kind of unit composition is how ridiculously hard it is to get out that combination of units due to the insane amount of gas required. | ||
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