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On February 23 2013 15:10 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:07 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 23 2013 15:05 Assirra wrote: Anyone can say what they changed to ultra's statwise that makes them so much better now? 35 damage vs 15 really? what's with the major damage increase? why not 20 or 25 at best? 35 seems excessive :O
The TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE approach. It will be nerfed anyway, the question is when.
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On February 23 2013 15:09 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:08 zhurai wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 BigFan wrote: thanks for the answer about blinding cloud everyone! wow, Zerg looks crazy hard to win against >< Those ultras and the viper's blinding cloud and abduct are gonna be hard to go up against, more micro lol. yeah, and yet zerg players have been complaining a lot about how hard hots is. just the same zerg players that can't adapt, and resort to complaining instead. "oh no I can't defend with just queens and drones to 90 and get lair at 11 minute mark, better complain about it on SOTG/forum" So it's back to the early days of WoL?
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Heart and Ryung didn't play well at all. Totalbiscuit tweeted after Ryung played saying Ryung has practiced HOTS the least out of the Axiom players, so his loss isn't surprising.
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On February 23 2013 15:11 zhurai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:10 MangoMountain wrote:On February 23 2013 15:08 zhurai wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 BigFan wrote: thanks for the answer about blinding cloud everyone! wow, Zerg looks crazy hard to win against >< Those ultras and the viper's blinding cloud and abduct are gonna be hard to go up against, more micro lol. yeah, and yet zerg players have been complaining a lot about how hard hots is. Maybe... just maybe, ryung and heart weren't playing particularly well. or maybe, just maybe the game isn't figured out yet because it hasn't been out long enough (or... lol released at all). wait 3 months kk No, we must cry to the high heavens that we can't have 80 drone for free and that it's unfair that the Terran's units do damage before 12 minutes and demand Blizzard make it easier for us.
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On February 23 2013 15:10 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:09 iky43210 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:08 zhurai wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 BigFan wrote: thanks for the answer about blinding cloud everyone! wow, Zerg looks crazy hard to win against >< Those ultras and the viper's blinding cloud and abduct are gonna be hard to go up against, more micro lol. yeah, and yet zerg players have been complaining a lot about how hard hots is. just the same zerg players that can't adapt, and resort to complaining instead. "oh no I can't defend with just queens and drones to 90 and get lair at 11 minute mark, better complain about it on SOTG/forum" 0 zergs in the ipl 6 lineup, and no one ever went 90 min drones by 11min lol. Really don't get why shit like what you wrote isn't at least warnable. Where did you get that number? Currently there are 15 zergs qualified for IPL6 compared to 3 terrans.
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On February 23 2013 15:12 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:10 Tachion wrote: Can we all agree that Vipers are way more fun to watch than infestors at least? These Zerg games have been way more entertaining than infestor balls of WoL Completely agreed, while Blinding Cloud does stop your units from attacking at least you can micro out of it.
Best unit added to HotS imo
- Not good in mass
- Reward skill
- Allows more swarm-like play by extending the usage of lair units into the late game
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On February 23 2013 15:10 Tachion wrote: Can we all agree that Vipers are way more fun to watch than infestors at least? These Zerg games have been way more entertaining than infestor balls of WoL
Definitely. I hope they don't nerf Vipers because they at least are strictly support (as opposed to infestors for AOE/Stun/damage/siege), but these lategame battles just illustrate how much of a joke tanks in their current form are.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On February 23 2013 15:11 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:10 BigFan wrote:On February 23 2013 15:07 SniXSniPe wrote:On February 23 2013 15:05 Assirra wrote: Anyone can say what they changed to ultra's statwise that makes them so much better now? 35 damage vs 15 really? what's with the major damage increase? why not 20 or 25 at best? 35 seems excessive :O It was already 35 in WoL but only to armored units, now It's 35 to everything. Maybe It's a bit excessive. ya that's what I thought because I remember they did extra damage to marauders but figured maybe I was confusing the damage lol.
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Pff to early to watch live, glad i got in atleast with IM 2-0 up so far.
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On February 23 2013 14:43 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 14:38 covetousrat wrote: Who said Zerg is weak in HOTS... Zergs who have gotten used to crushing all aggression with queendralisks and having 80 drones at 12 minutes.
On February 23 2013 15:13 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:11 zhurai wrote:On February 23 2013 15:10 MangoMountain wrote:On February 23 2013 15:08 zhurai wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 BigFan wrote: thanks for the answer about blinding cloud everyone! wow, Zerg looks crazy hard to win against >< Those ultras and the viper's blinding cloud and abduct are gonna be hard to go up against, more micro lol. yeah, and yet zerg players have been complaining a lot about how hard hots is. Maybe... just maybe, ryung and heart weren't playing particularly well. or maybe, just maybe the game isn't figured out yet because it hasn't been out long enough (or... lol released at all). wait 3 months kk No, we must cry to the high heavens that we can't have 80 drone for free and that it's unfair that the Terran's units do damage before 12 minutes and demand Blizzard make it easier for us.
Please stop. Nobody says these things and you are making this thread very unpleasent.
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Does PDD shoot down fungal growth in HotS?
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On February 23 2013 15:13 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:10 bo1b wrote:On February 23 2013 15:09 iky43210 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:08 zhurai wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 BigFan wrote: thanks for the answer about blinding cloud everyone! wow, Zerg looks crazy hard to win against >< Those ultras and the viper's blinding cloud and abduct are gonna be hard to go up against, more micro lol. yeah, and yet zerg players have been complaining a lot about how hard hots is. just the same zerg players that can't adapt, and resort to complaining instead. "oh no I can't defend with just queens and drones to 90 and get lair at 11 minute mark, better complain about it on SOTG/forum" 0 zergs in the ipl 6 lineup, and no one ever went 90 min drones by 11min lol. Really don't get why shit like what you wrote isn't at least warnable. Where did you get that number? Currently there are 15 zergs qualified for IPL6 compared to 3 terrans. I meant ipl6 hots invitational qualifier, of which the only zerg in the ro16 got there via zvz and promptly lost. Maybe puma is better then life but I doubt it.
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On February 23 2013 15:12 goswser wrote: Heart and Ryung didn't play well at all. Totalbiscuit tweeted after Ryung played saying Ryung has practiced HOTS the least out of the Axiom players, so his loss isn't surprising. no man, terrans lose = zerg op. just from the fact of choosing terran on the loading screen ryung and heart automatically outmacroed, outmicroed, outmultitasked and outstrategized ragnarok both games and he just held on because of buffed ultras being op as shit
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On February 23 2013 15:12 Zelniq wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:07 AllHailTheDead wrote: Wow....
Haven't people been saying that ZvT isnt really a good match up in HoTS......Now I really believe that......with all the stuff the zerg has received it just seems once late game happens terran can't really do shit To this guy and all similar posts, it's mech and endgame terrain air that's so tough for zerg. Bio is really not looking good in comparison..but there's no need to bio. As qxc said last night, once he gets maxed on much he never can lose, and if he gets to mass air it's actually impossible to lose. Not sure how true that is, but atm it feels kinda like that.
There is need to bio for spectators though. Kind of suck if bio is obsolete, it just kills the diversity and a ton of strategies. Bleh, I dislike it.
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On February 23 2013 15:15 Devolved wrote: Does PDD shoot down fungal growth in HotS? Someone with HotS needs to try this, now I'm curious.
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Russian Federation374 Posts
On February 23 2013 15:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:08 Arceus wrote:On February 23 2013 15:07 vthree wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 Megiddosc wrote: How are Axiom terrans so terrible in these games? Just make hellbats. Guess you didn't get the memo that they were nerfed a few hours ago... didnt Wolf tweet that today match wont be played in the latest patch? I'm pretty sure they mentioned during the last game when he still had some hellions that he should just turn them into hellbats because the transforming upgrade thing isn't in this version they were playing
where do you guys see the patch statement? I've looked through TL and battle.net but cant find anything. Where should I seek for it? :O
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On February 23 2013 15:17 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:15 Devolved wrote: Does PDD shoot down fungal growth in HotS? Someone with HotS needs to try this, now I'm curious.
No, it doesn't work against spells.
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Ragnarok all kill incoming
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On February 23 2013 15:17 RandomPlayer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:On February 23 2013 15:08 Arceus wrote:On February 23 2013 15:07 vthree wrote:On February 23 2013 15:06 Megiddosc wrote: How are Axiom terrans so terrible in these games? Just make hellbats. Guess you didn't get the memo that they were nerfed a few hours ago... didnt Wolf tweet that today match wont be played in the latest patch? I'm pretty sure they mentioned during the last game when he still had some hellions that he should just turn them into hellbats because the transforming upgrade thing isn't in this version they were playing where do you guys see the patch statement? I've looked through TL and battle.net but cant find anything. Where should I seek for it? :O http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399920
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On February 23 2013 15:17 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 15:12 Zelniq wrote:On February 23 2013 15:07 AllHailTheDead wrote: Wow....
Haven't people been saying that ZvT isnt really a good match up in HoTS......Now I really believe that......with all the stuff the zerg has received it just seems once late game happens terran can't really do shit To this guy and all similar posts, it's mech and endgame terrain air that's so tough for zerg. Bio is really not looking good in comparison..but there's no need to bio. As qxc said last night, once he gets maxed on much he never can lose, and if he gets to mass air it's actually impossible to lose. Not sure how true that is, but atm it feels kinda like that. There is need to bio for spectators though. Kind of suck if bio is obsolete, it just kills the diversity and a ton of strategies. Bleh, I dislike it. Of course theres a need for it, but playing the completely wrong tech choice and then using that as an argument for terrans being bad vs zerg is silly.
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