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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 17 2013 21:38 GMT
#141
Next time someone uses time warp just look at the units inside, their firing rate is much slower than normal.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 17 2013 21:38 GMT
#142
LoL at 3 different answers haha :D.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 17 2013 21:39 GMT
#143
On February 18 2013 06:35 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:29 corpuscle wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:26 ZjiublingZ wrote:
I don't understand what sort of counter-play is involved with Time-Warp? It seems like you basically just accept that it is going down if you commit and it goes down and yeah.


Sounds a lot like some other spells that are in this game... you can pre-spread and try to bait a missed one, but that's about it.


I also think pros will find better uses for it, like saving one time warp for after the fight when your opponent or you want to retreat for example. Depends on the matchup of course. But throwing both down in an immortal/archon vs immortal/archon fight doesn't seem to do much.

I'll eagerly wait for Timewarp harassment on the mineral line.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 17 2013 21:40 GMT
#144
Time to see if Demu can stop the Grubby train.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
February 17 2013 21:42 GMT
#145
On February 18 2013 06:38 Dodgin wrote:
Next time someone uses time warp just look at the units inside, their firing rate is much slower than normal.


hm Liquipedia says it reduces movement by 50% - nothing else, so I am rather sceptical of what you are saying
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 17 2013 21:43 GMT
#146
On February 18 2013 06:39 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:35 Musicus wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:29 corpuscle wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:26 ZjiublingZ wrote:
I don't understand what sort of counter-play is involved with Time-Warp? It seems like you basically just accept that it is going down if you commit and it goes down and yeah.


Sounds a lot like some other spells that are in this game... you can pre-spread and try to bait a missed one, but that's about it.


I also think pros will find better uses for it, like saving one time warp for after the fight when your opponent or you want to retreat for example. Depends on the matchup of course. But throwing both down in an immortal/archon vs immortal/archon fight doesn't seem to do much.

I'll eagerly wait for Timewarp harassment on the mineral line.


Ah yes, I've seen that on some streams, Tod's for example, but I wonder how effective it is. You can only do it in the early game or you will lose the MSC. Heromarine moved his mules out of the time warp, but ignored it for the most part.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3401 Posts
February 17 2013 21:43 GMT
#147
On February 18 2013 06:39 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:35 Musicus wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:29 corpuscle wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:26 ZjiublingZ wrote:
I don't understand what sort of counter-play is involved with Time-Warp? It seems like you basically just accept that it is going down if you commit and it goes down and yeah.


Sounds a lot like some other spells that are in this game... you can pre-spread and try to bait a missed one, but that's about it.


I also think pros will find better uses for it, like saving one time warp for after the fight when your opponent or you want to retreat for example. Depends on the matchup of course. But throwing both down in an immortal/archon vs immortal/archon fight doesn't seem to do much.

I'll eagerly wait for Timewarp harassment on the mineral line.

Since it delays only movement it's not that effective.
It's much better to save your energy for photon overcharge / recall or just use time warp in combat.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 21:47:48
February 17 2013 21:44 GMT
#148
So insanely shut down. Grubby got this.

edit: shit lol
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 17 2013 21:45 GMT
#149
On February 18 2013 06:43 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:39 WigglingSquid wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:35 Musicus wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:29 corpuscle wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:26 ZjiublingZ wrote:
I don't understand what sort of counter-play is involved with Time-Warp? It seems like you basically just accept that it is going down if you commit and it goes down and yeah.


Sounds a lot like some other spells that are in this game... you can pre-spread and try to bait a missed one, but that's about it.


I also think pros will find better uses for it, like saving one time warp for after the fight when your opponent or you want to retreat for example. Depends on the matchup of course. But throwing both down in an immortal/archon vs immortal/archon fight doesn't seem to do much.

I'll eagerly wait for Timewarp harassment on the mineral line.

Since it delays only movement it's not that effective.
It's much better to save your energy for photon overcharge / recall or just use time warp in combat.

Oh, I see. Shame on Blizzard for giving spells deceptive names.
Were it to actually slow everything down, I could see players time warping double assimilators when the geysers are close enough.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 17 2013 21:49 GMT
#150
What the hell is this supply lead by Demuslim, reallly wtf haha.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
scampioen
Profile Joined May 2012
Belgium55 Posts
February 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#151
Where did Grubby go wrong? i don't really see it. Just macro problems?
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#152
Demu stomping hard wowza
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#153
On February 18 2013 06:50 scampioen wrote:
Where did Grubby go wrong? i don't really see it. Just macro problems?


No collosus.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
February 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#154
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
February 17 2013 21:51 GMT
#155
Grubby missed a couple of warp cycles. He was floating 1000 mins and some gas and DeMusliM was keeping an excellent pace. That's where the mysterious 140 to 100 supply lead came from and it snowballed from there.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 17 2013 21:52 GMT
#156
aah no perfect record for Grubby today =/

he had so many minerals for like the last two minutes of the game. he just let his macro slip imo.
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
February 17 2013 21:52 GMT
#157
On February 18 2013 06:50 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:50 scampioen wrote:
Where did Grubby go wrong? i don't really see it. Just macro problems?


No collosus.

Was it really just this? To me, as a sc2 beginner this seems quite odd.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
February 17 2013 21:53 GMT
#158
On February 18 2013 06:52 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:50 stuchiu wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:50 scampioen wrote:
Where did Grubby go wrong? i don't really see it. Just macro problems?


No collosus.

Was it really just this? To me, as a sc2 beginner this seems quite odd.

I disagree with stuchiu's assessment; I think it was just macro mistakes and perhaps not enough HT's for storm.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 17 2013 21:54 GMT
#159
Demuslim never missed a beat with his production, that was some Bomber macro. Grubby missed warp in cycles. That's pretty much it, a game won by macro.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
February 17 2013 21:55 GMT
#160
On February 18 2013 06:52 Schelim wrote:
aah no perfect record for Grubby today =/

he had so many minerals for like the last two minutes of the game. he just let his macro slip imo.


i dont see how a few more units would have helped Grubby, no way he could have hold his third.
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