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[MLG] Stephano vs Titan - Dallas Qualifier Day 8 - Page 7

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m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
February 12 2013 22:59 GMT
#121
I think the first game was pretty good with a lot of aggression. Then an all-in from stephano and a blind-counter to the blink-stalkers in game 3. This is SC2. It's no different from any other tournament. Go watch code A and see if it is any different.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
February 12 2013 22:59 GMT
#122
On February 13 2013 07:58 shid0x wrote:
Not cheesing or not korean ?
You can't beat phano.


more like: not playing sc2?
You can't beat phano.
xlord 5:0
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 12 2013 22:59 GMT
#123
On February 13 2013 07:58 1Dhalism wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 02:26 sitromit wrote:
On February 13 2013 02:17 ROOTAxeltoss wrote:
No zergs have won yet, Stephano has been having to focus on WoL for proleague, Titan is one of the most underrated protosses out there and might even have a winning record against Stephano if i remember correctly. But Stephano is stephano... hmm It's going to be close but I got Titan 3-2


Titan hasn't been playing SC at all recently, has been playing poker instead according to his posts in a Russian forum which someone linked to yesterday. Unless playing poker is better practice for HotS than playing WoL, Stephano should be the one with the advantage.

can i get a link

http://goodgame.ru/topic/50109/?comment=2664167
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 12 2013 23:00 GMT
#124
On February 13 2013 07:58 1Dhalism wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 02:26 sitromit wrote:
On February 13 2013 02:17 ROOTAxeltoss wrote:
No zergs have won yet, Stephano has been having to focus on WoL for proleague, Titan is one of the most underrated protosses out there and might even have a winning record against Stephano if i remember correctly. But Stephano is stephano... hmm It's going to be close but I got Titan 3-2


Titan hasn't been playing SC at all recently, has been playing poker instead according to his posts in a Russian forum which someone linked to yesterday. Unless playing poker is better practice for HotS than playing WoL, Stephano should be the one with the advantage.

can i get a link

http://goodgame.ru/topic/50109/?comment=2664167
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
February 12 2013 23:01 GMT
#125
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 12 2013 23:01 GMT
#126
Bahh, I had to leave. How did the 3rd game go?
$♥$
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 12 2013 23:02 GMT
#127
hahahahahaha le reddit le XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

User was warned for this post
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 12 2013 23:03 GMT
#128
On February 13 2013 08:01 MCXD wrote:
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>

If you're good at it, it is a good way to make money quickly.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 12 2013 23:05 GMT
#129
On February 13 2013 08:01 MCXD wrote:
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>

This is something I've also wondered. Is this a western only phenomenon, or do Koreans do this as well?
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
February 12 2013 23:06 GMT
#130
On February 13 2013 07:56 StarVe wrote:
I've seen a lot of people post comments like "immediately turned off the stream when I saw it was WoL" in tournament threads recently but I'm actually kinda the opposite, HotS really bores me at the moment, the games these tournaments show don't look interesting at all and I'm glad when I can watch WoL tournaments.

Only time HotS is watchable is on streams from players who have practiced HotS for a long time because they hit opponents who know what they're doing.

As expected, the transition period is a mess, and I enjoy watching the more stable version of StarCraft.


That's why it is a bad thing for the competitive aspect of the game that all tournaments switch to HotS when it is out.
But it'll bring more viewers, so I guess we'll have to deal with it.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 12 2013 23:08 GMT
#131
On February 13 2013 07:56 StarVe wrote:
I've seen a lot of people post comments like "immediately turned off the stream when I saw it was WoL" in tournament threads recently but I'm actually kinda the opposite, HotS really bores me at the moment, the games these tournaments show don't look interesting at all and I'm glad when I can watch WoL tournaments.

Only time HotS is watchable is on streams from players who have practiced HotS for a long time because they hit opponents who know what they're doing.

As expected, the transition period is a mess, and I enjoy watching the more stable version of StarCraft.

I totally agree with you and I'm really glad that IPL6 is on WoL. Major tournaments shouldn't have switch to HotS before 1 or 2 months after the release. Nobody will be ready to show their best level.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
February 12 2013 23:08 GMT
#132
On February 13 2013 08:01 MCXD wrote:
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>


The top 15-20% of poker players make good money.

The top <1% of sc2 players make good money.
xlord 5:0
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
February 12 2013 23:10 GMT
#133
On February 13 2013 08:00 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 07:58 1Dhalism wrote:

On February 13 2013 02:26 sitromit wrote:
On February 13 2013 02:17 ROOTAxeltoss wrote:
No zergs have won yet, Stephano has been having to focus on WoL for proleague, Titan is one of the most underrated protosses out there and might even have a winning record against Stephano if i remember correctly. But Stephano is stephano... hmm It's going to be close but I got Titan 3-2


Titan hasn't been playing SC at all recently, has been playing poker instead according to his posts in a Russian forum which someone linked to yesterday. Unless playing poker is better practice for HotS than playing WoL, Stephano should be the one with the advantage.

can i get a link

http://goodgame.ru/topic/50109/?comment=2664167

On February 13 2013 07:59 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 07:58 1Dhalism wrote:

On February 13 2013 02:26 sitromit wrote:
On February 13 2013 02:17 ROOTAxeltoss wrote:
No zergs have won yet, Stephano has been having to focus on WoL for proleague, Titan is one of the most underrated protosses out there and might even have a winning record against Stephano if i remember correctly. But Stephano is stephano... hmm It's going to be close but I got Titan 3-2


Titan hasn't been playing SC at all recently, has been playing poker instead according to his posts in a Russian forum which someone linked to yesterday. Unless playing poker is better practice for HotS than playing WoL, Stephano should be the one with the advantage.

can i get a link

http://goodgame.ru/topic/50109/?comment=2664167


Thanks. That's a really cool approach for a progamer to have.

On February 13 2013 08:01 MCXD wrote:
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>

Afaik he's not going into poker but rather he came to Sc2 from poker. What he said basically was because he was performing poorly in Sc2 he had to play poker to support himself financially. So unlike Stephano whos going to the bank, Titan is actually going from the bank to support his passion for SC2.
Which i think is really really cool.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 12 2013 23:11 GMT
#134
On February 13 2013 08:06 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 07:56 StarVe wrote:
I've seen a lot of people post comments like "immediately turned off the stream when I saw it was WoL" in tournament threads recently but I'm actually kinda the opposite, HotS really bores me at the moment, the games these tournaments show don't look interesting at all and I'm glad when I can watch WoL tournaments.

Only time HotS is watchable is on streams from players who have practiced HotS for a long time because they hit opponents who know what they're doing.

As expected, the transition period is a mess, and I enjoy watching the more stable version of StarCraft.


That's why it is a bad thing for the competitive aspect of the game that all tournaments switch to HotS when it is out.
But it'll bring more viewers, so I guess we'll have to deal with it.


The problem with not doing so is that pros will play whatever game currently has major tournaments. So if tournaments were to stick to wol for a month or two then all that would amount to is delaying the transition for equal time. It would not make it any smoother whatsoever!

The good news is that just like when kespa transitioned and could benefit of an already developed metagame, so will those who just now transition to hots profit from players who have played longer and developed some resemblence of a metagame. At any rate well just have to take the first messy weeks/month or two.
Amove for Aiur
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 12 2013 23:18 GMT
#135
On February 13 2013 08:08 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 07:56 StarVe wrote:
I've seen a lot of people post comments like "immediately turned off the stream when I saw it was WoL" in tournament threads recently but I'm actually kinda the opposite, HotS really bores me at the moment, the games these tournaments show don't look interesting at all and I'm glad when I can watch WoL tournaments.

Only time HotS is watchable is on streams from players who have practiced HotS for a long time because they hit opponents who know what they're doing.

As expected, the transition period is a mess, and I enjoy watching the more stable version of StarCraft.

I totally agree with you and I'm really glad that IPL6 is on WoL. Major tournaments shouldn't have switch to HotS before 1 or 2 months after the release. Nobody will be ready to show their best level.

Yeah, it's like the GSL Open Seasons but without the excitement and Tastosis.

But I don't see any way this could have been avoided, it is apparently the smarter business decision and there would always be the overlap of some players still practicing for WoL because there are tournaments for it who have no clue about HotS and some practicing for HotS because they want a headstart and can win money in a less than stable game environment.

It doesn't matter when the switch occurs, it would always hurt some and benefit others so it's better to make the cut immediately after release and get all players on HotS asap so they can accelerate the development of the metagame.

Otherwise we'd end up with shit like the hybrid proleague.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
February 12 2013 23:20 GMT
#136
On February 13 2013 08:08 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:01 MCXD wrote:
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>


The top 15-20% of poker players make good money.

The top <1% of sc2 players make good money.


Nonsense. Less than 10% of poker players do better than breakeven and quite a lot less than 1% make "good money".

Red and yellow are all I see
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 12 2013 23:24 GMT
#137
On February 13 2013 07:59 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 07:58 shid0x wrote:
Not cheesing or not korean ?
You can't beat phano.


more like: not playing sc2?
You can't beat phano.

People (or you? haven't been checking names) keep bringing that up. Who cares? Is Titan is too careless to turn down an invite, or practice for a qualifier, it's entirely his fault for putting on an embarassing performance.
Refer to my post.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
February 12 2013 23:28 GMT
#138
On February 13 2013 08:20 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:08 Awesomeness wrote:
On February 13 2013 08:01 MCXD wrote:
Why do so many progamers go into poker >_>


The top 15-20% of poker players make good money.

The top <1% of sc2 players make good money.


Nonsense. Less than 10% of poker players do better than breakeven and quite a lot less than 1% make "good money".



What? Considering the rake, I guess like 40% of poker players should do better than breakeven. That will change if they move up in the limits, but still....^^

And "good money" in russia would be like 500-600$ a month and you can do that easily on nl50 or something and I can guarantee that FAR MORE than 1% of poker players can do that. Even if we are talking about 2-3k a month, that would still be much more than 1% of the players.

You literally have to be one of the best players in the world to make money playing sc2, you have to have a decent understanding of the game to make money playing poker.
xlord 5:0
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
February 12 2013 23:29 GMT
#139
On February 13 2013 08:18 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 08:08 Boucot wrote:
On February 13 2013 07:56 StarVe wrote:
I've seen a lot of people post comments like "immediately turned off the stream when I saw it was WoL" in tournament threads recently but I'm actually kinda the opposite, HotS really bores me at the moment, the games these tournaments show don't look interesting at all and I'm glad when I can watch WoL tournaments.

Only time HotS is watchable is on streams from players who have practiced HotS for a long time because they hit opponents who know what they're doing.

As expected, the transition period is a mess, and I enjoy watching the more stable version of StarCraft.

I totally agree with you and I'm really glad that IPL6 is on WoL. Major tournaments shouldn't have switch to HotS before 1 or 2 months after the release. Nobody will be ready to show their best level.

Yeah, it's like the GSL Open Seasons but without the excitement and Tastosis.

But I don't see any way this could have been avoided, it is apparently the smarter business decision and there would always be the overlap of some players still practicing for WoL because there are tournaments for it who have no clue about HotS and some practicing for HotS because they want a headstart and can win money in a less than stable game environment.

It doesn't matter when the switch occurs, it would always hurt some and benefit others so it's better to make the cut immediately after release and get all players on HotS asap so they can accelerate the development of the metagame.

Otherwise we'd end up with shit like the hybrid proleague.

The only other concern would be the balance of HotS, that is way worse than WoL's. But this is more about Blizzard than the tournaments makers.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 12 2013 23:32 GMT
#140
Well that went quick. Not going to spoil.
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