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[Code A] GSL S1 2013 Preliminaries - Page 80

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onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
January 31 2013 05:35 GMT
#1581
Happy for Zenio!
Livin' this life like it was written.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 05:35 GMT
#1582
bracket confirms a 2-0 for Zenio now
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 31 2013 05:36 GMT
#1583
Gratz Zenio!
mclalimace
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada66 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 05:37:59
January 31 2013 05:36 GMT
#1584
Fuck yeah! I'm so glad Tear finally qualifies for Code A

Edit: Also GG Zenio !!
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
January 31 2013 05:37 GMT
#1585
So with Killer in Code A, MVP has the most players in GSL?
#TheOneTrueDong
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 05:37 GMT
#1586
brackets are all on liquipedia. tell me if you think I missed any notable eliminated players to put in the OP so people dont have to ask if they're playing or not
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 31 2013 05:38 GMT
#1587
Killer and Zenio surprised me.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 31 2013 05:38 GMT
#1588
On January 31 2013 14:32 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 14:21 LighT. wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:17 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:12 LighT. wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:10 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:06 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:04 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:56 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:52 Tsutchie wrote:
[quote]

its not that they don't care, its that they don't have the time to prepare for the individual leagues like non-proleague players. coming to the qualifiers to play a few games aren't detrimental to the team but i think if the qualifiers were held on the same day as a proleague game. they wouldn't show up to the qualifiers

Many players only pracitce by playing ladder. I mean yea they'll study their replays if they can, but in this they dont know who theyre going to play anyway so thats actually a terrible excuse. The "they don't have time" is complete BS


Well, I don't know about that. It may seem like they have plenty of time but if their main priority is training for a whole team of players (Pro League) then they wouldn't really have that much time if you think about it. Whereas the ESF players only has to focus on one group and that's their GSL group.

If players only practice by playing on ladder (i know for a fact thats all DRG does for example) then none of that is relevant. When you just practice ladder, youre just focusing on yourself and not your opponent so thats irrelevant.


The map pool buddy. Kespa players have to practice for an almost completely different map pool.

Yea, but how many other tournaments do top eSF players play in that have differnet map pools, plus kespa maps are being used in GSL this season. Its nothing about map pools, preparation or anything. Right now, overall eSF players are better than KeSPA.

Thank you for sharing your opinion.
Now respect other's peoples opinion as well.
From my perspective; eSF and Kespa are equal in skill level from the bottom to the top. except Kespa teams seems to cultivate academies better than eSF teams, while eSF has the best player in sc2: Life.

The only opinion ive shared was when I said eSF players overall which based on GSL results between KeSPA and eSF players and the quality of games PL is producing compared to Code S, I dont see how you can argue (note some KeSPA players can compete with everybody) I think everything else i said was a fact.

I've made this argument at least 3 different times on other threads and I cant believe I'm bringing it up for the 4th time.
but you CANT compare Code S to SPL
Comparing the two is retardation at its finest.
Code S is a individual league for the top tier players. SPL is a team league composed of b teams, a-teamers and hell even trainees..


This is excuses, and more excuses. Code S is top 32 players. SPL plays 4 players for the winners round so it should be 8x4 (32 players top players). So the 'level' of players shouldn't be that different.

How is that excuses? What excuse am I freaking making?
All I've stated is that you cant compare an individual league with a freakin team league.
Comparing the two is like myself going "OH LOOK AT GSTL" Compared to the OSL Finals of Rain/DRG, THE LEVEL OF GAMING IS BAD AND KESPA > ESF.
You are comparing apples to oranges and trying to justify it. Stop.

Actually let's go with your argument although the argument is stupid to begin with.
Yes they send 4 players for the winners round. What's your point?
I can see you can do math. 8x4 = 32 players.
What does this have anything to do with levels?
What argument are you trying to make with proleague teams fielding a total of maximum 32 players over 2 days?

Seriously..
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 31 2013 05:39 GMT
#1589
Also KT choking on individuals again. Surprise Surprise.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5424 Posts
January 31 2013 05:39 GMT
#1590
Woo grats zenio
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 31 2013 05:39 GMT
#1591
On January 31 2013 14:31 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 14:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Killer 2-0 Action
Killer qualifies for Code A!

Pitiful.
DAT KT CORE.
DONT KNOW HOW TO WIN INDIVIDUALS.


Every season...
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 31 2013 05:39 GMT
#1592
Killer and Zenio 2011'ing this thing.

We're just missing Nada. Maybe if someone else from Azubu makes it through he'll be there in spirit? ~_^
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 05:40 GMT
#1593
On January 31 2013 14:39 bittman wrote:
Killer and Zenio 2011'ing this thing.

We're just missing Nada. Maybe if someone else from Azubu makes it through he'll be there in spirit? ~_^

Their best shot at a 2011 nostalgia qualifier was probably TOP but he's out. I guess there's still InCa for their other GSL finalist
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 31 2013 05:40 GMT
#1594
On January 31 2013 14:39 LighT. wrote:
Also KT choking on individuals again. Surprise Surprise.


Action and Hoejja just need a seed into the Ro4, and then they'll be unstoppable.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 31 2013 05:42 GMT
#1595
On January 31 2013 14:40 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 14:39 LighT. wrote:
Also KT choking on individuals again. Surprise Surprise.


Action and Hoejja just need a seed into the Ro4, and then they'll be unstoppable.

KT's last hope: Crazy-hydra.
Sigh..
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 31 2013 05:42 GMT
#1596
On January 31 2013 14:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 14:39 bittman wrote:
Killer and Zenio 2011'ing this thing.

We're just missing Nada. Maybe if someone else from Azubu makes it through he'll be there in spirit? ~_^

Their best shot at a 2011 nostalgia qualifier was probably TOP but he's out. I guess there's still InCa for their other GSL finalist


They'll never see it coming at least.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 05:43:58
January 31 2013 05:43 GMT
#1597
OMG cant wait to read SanHo interview. I freaking love him. Now sleep time so I can watch Noblesse and NesTea own in Code S
#TheOneTrueDong
NokaH
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway46 Posts
January 31 2013 05:43 GMT
#1598
What is the situation like between Sola and YoungJoo?
"All you have to do is click the right amount of buttons." - Day[9]
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 31 2013 05:43 GMT
#1599
On January 31 2013 14:42 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 14:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:39 bittman wrote:
Killer and Zenio 2011'ing this thing.

We're just missing Nada. Maybe if someone else from Azubu makes it through he'll be there in spirit? ~_^

Their best shot at a 2011 nostalgia qualifier was probably TOP but he's out. I guess there's still InCa for their other GSL finalist


They'll never see it coming at least.

I see what you did there =]
Long live the Boss Toss!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 31 2013 05:44 GMT
#1600
On January 31 2013 14:38 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 14:32 vthree wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:21 LighT. wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:17 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:12 LighT. wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:10 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:06 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:04 TommyP wrote:
On January 31 2013 14:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 31 2013 13:56 TommyP wrote:
[quote]
Many players only pracitce by playing ladder. I mean yea they'll study their replays if they can, but in this they dont know who theyre going to play anyway so thats actually a terrible excuse. The "they don't have time" is complete BS


Well, I don't know about that. It may seem like they have plenty of time but if their main priority is training for a whole team of players (Pro League) then they wouldn't really have that much time if you think about it. Whereas the ESF players only has to focus on one group and that's their GSL group.

If players only practice by playing on ladder (i know for a fact thats all DRG does for example) then none of that is relevant. When you just practice ladder, youre just focusing on yourself and not your opponent so thats irrelevant.


The map pool buddy. Kespa players have to practice for an almost completely different map pool.

Yea, but how many other tournaments do top eSF players play in that have differnet map pools, plus kespa maps are being used in GSL this season. Its nothing about map pools, preparation or anything. Right now, overall eSF players are better than KeSPA.

Thank you for sharing your opinion.
Now respect other's peoples opinion as well.
From my perspective; eSF and Kespa are equal in skill level from the bottom to the top. except Kespa teams seems to cultivate academies better than eSF teams, while eSF has the best player in sc2: Life.

The only opinion ive shared was when I said eSF players overall which based on GSL results between KeSPA and eSF players and the quality of games PL is producing compared to Code S, I dont see how you can argue (note some KeSPA players can compete with everybody) I think everything else i said was a fact.

I've made this argument at least 3 different times on other threads and I cant believe I'm bringing it up for the 4th time.
but you CANT compare Code S to SPL
Comparing the two is retardation at its finest.
Code S is a individual league for the top tier players. SPL is a team league composed of b teams, a-teamers and hell even trainees..


This is excuses, and more excuses. Code S is top 32 players. SPL plays 4 players for the winners round so it should be 8x4 (32 players top players). So the 'level' of players shouldn't be that different.

How is that excuses? What excuse am I freaking making?
All I've stated is that you cant compare an individual league with a freakin team league.
Comparing the two is like myself going "OH LOOK AT GSTL" Compared to the OSL Finals of Rain/DRG, THE LEVEL OF GAMING IS BAD AND KESPA > ESF.
You are comparing apples to oranges and trying to justify it. Stop.

I know this really isn't your point, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the level of games played in GSTL is actually lower than the OSL finals of Rain/DRG in the first place ... in the second, I guess if you want to compare teamleagues, GSTL games are definitely better than SPL games in term of play quality on average. Hell, IPTL games seem better even to me than SPL games. (I've stopped watching even when EG-TL plays, but that may just be because Taeja no longer plays in SPL ... )
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