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On January 30 2013 21:36 dreamseller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:29 Alpina wrote:On January 30 2013 21:26 Qikz wrote:On January 30 2013 21:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 30 2013 21:22 Micromnky wrote:
Im so tired of the 'pre splitting' crap. They all have a finite range, and need to attack a single target. You can't pre-split. They all NEED to end up in an arc around their target. Uh...you can pre split. You can pre split sure, but one misclick and everything you have just dies. That's the issue, there's no way of ever stopping being chain fungaled once it's happening. One mistake and you loose all your mutas to thors. One mistake and you lose your half your army due to forcefields. This game is all about your opponent making mistakes and how you take advantage of that. There is a weakness in the analogy of muta vs thors and fungal vs anything Firstly, clumping mutas vs thors is a mistake that is much harder to make than getting caught by fungals. And this is why you hardly ever see it happening whereas these "SICK FUNGALS" most viewers here are so fatigued from seeing Secondly, infestors are mobile and often burrowed, thus should be present in nearly every engagement, thors have nowhere near this mobility so for example with ling/bling/muta even if thors are nearby, it is just a matter of angles of attack with muta, you split your thors for better coverage and they can even get picked off by mutas. whereas against something like BL/infestors the fungals will always catch your army due to their mobility, and the infestors can even be spread really thin across a siege line and get one big fungal off and then the others can come over and finish the job off.
Fine, it's harder to control units vs. fungals but my point still remains.
Oh and Mvp vikings were all caught by a single fungal, so it's terrible mistake by him.
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keeeeeen why so greedy with the hellions, now youve thrown away almost all of your lead
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On January 30 2013 21:38 nomyx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:38 Tobblish wrote:On January 30 2013 21:37 nomyx wrote:On January 30 2013 21:36 yokohama wrote:
I bet MKP is ecstatic knowing he made it out of the group and MVP failed to advance. Not the outcome I expected, but it I wouldn't be upset at all to see MKP take the final WoL GSL. if anyone deserves a gsl win it's MKP Sorry don't you mean MVP?! 0o He's got a million of them already, have pity and let MKP win
Theres no room for pity when the elephants are making their move to conquer the world!
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On January 30 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:39 ES.Genie wrote:Keen, if you fail here, I will kill myself. Too much sadness for one day  :O That's a little bold.
No, this is
Fuck Zerg
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this is a weird strategy to go for on diagonal spots
whoops!
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On January 30 2013 21:40 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 30 2013 21:39 ES.Genie wrote:Keen, if you fail here, I will kill myself. Too much sadness for one day :O That's a little bold. No, this isFuck Zerg + Show Spoiler +
This thread is full of heroes today
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On January 30 2013 21:38 Micromnky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:37 looken wrote:On January 30 2013 21:34 Micromnky wrote:On January 30 2013 21:31 BisuDagger wrote:On January 30 2013 21:28 nunez wrote:On January 30 2013 21:26 Qikz wrote:On January 30 2013 21:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 30 2013 21:22 Micromnky wrote:
Im so tired of the 'pre splitting' crap. They all have a finite range, and need to attack a single target. You can't pre-split. They all NEED to end up in an arc around their target. Uh...you can pre split. You can pre split sure, but one misclick and everything you have just dies. That's the issue, there's no way of ever stopping being chain fungaled once it's happening. you have ample siege tank range to go on. that was a terrible mistake by mvp and he paid the price. Because siege tanks attack air and prevent broodlings from hitting them? They can't hit infestors when their aggro is on broodlings. I do think chain fungaling should be fixed. Like each iterative use last less time would at least be a nicer fix. That would be wonderful. Fungal does a massive amount of damage, and it should. Its the infestors primary attack, for the most part its only attack. But with how they work now, the damage is never ending as long as you have energy. just chill guys, its hots only soon enough and fungal rly doesnt do all that much in hots anymore  Yeah its just frustrating. Seeing it evvvveryyyy game. Im definatly looking forward to seeing how HotS will shake things up.
yeah i get that 
on the other hand, although this is probably not the place to discuss it, look what the fungal nerf did to zerg in hots =/
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hellions deflected as if they were nothing
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On January 30 2013 21:40 tshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 30 2013 21:39 ES.Genie wrote:Keen, if you fail here, I will kill myself. Too much sadness for one day :O That's a little bold. No, this isFuck Zerg + Show Spoiler +
You should be banned for calling it "Boldception" :|
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Why wasn't MVP building any walls? Even in plat or below you see better walls than that.
On January 30 2013 21:31 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:28 nunez wrote:On January 30 2013 21:26 Qikz wrote:On January 30 2013 21:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 30 2013 21:22 Micromnky wrote:
Im so tired of the 'pre splitting' crap. They all have a finite range, and need to attack a single target. You can't pre-split. They all NEED to end up in an arc around their target. Uh...you can pre split. You can pre split sure, but one misclick and everything you have just dies. That's the issue, there's no way of ever stopping being chain fungaled once it's happening. you have ample siege tank range to go on. that was a terrible mistake by mvp and he paid the price. Because siege tanks attack air and prevent broodlings from hitting them? They can't hit infestors when their aggro is on broodlings. I do think chain fungaling should be fixed. Like each iterative use last less time would at least be a nicer fix.
You do realise you can manually target with your siege tanks right? It's a pretty damn basic skill that you see in every ZvT. You should be targeting the infestors yourself.
I agree about the fungals. Not in the way you say though, just get rid of the damn root which everyone knows sucks and has been saying for months.
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On January 30 2013 21:40 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:36 n0ise wrote:
are zergs doing 10p out of pity and to make the games interesting? Life does it and Life's succesful as hell - unfortunately not everyone is as good as him, so it looks kinda weak if other players do it xD And to the pre-splitting discussion: It depends on the attacker/defender. The attacker has an easier time pre-splitting the units, as he decides when the clash starts. MVP was attacking and still didn't do anything to weaken the effect of fungal.
One thing I want people to keep in mind with the pre-splitting is...its only effective once the engagement starts, if the targets aren't clumped, and if you dont focus fire. If the vikings focus fire, they all shift to be as close to the target as possible, clumping themselves. And even if they dont focus fire, if the target group is clumped, they'll still naturally drift right back together. Just food for thought.
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Last Season of WoL without the king of WoL... ;(
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On January 30 2013 21:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:40 tshi wrote:On January 30 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 30 2013 21:39 ES.Genie wrote:Keen, if you fail here, I will kill myself. Too much sadness for one day :O That's a little bold. No, this isFuck Zerg + Show Spoiler + This thread is full of heroes today
It's joseph gordon-levitt
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On January 30 2013 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:39 Waxangel wrote:On January 30 2013 21:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 30 2013 21:37 nomyx wrote:On January 30 2013 21:36 yokohama wrote:
I bet MKP is ecstatic knowing he made it out of the group and MVP failed to advance. Not the outcome I expected, but it I wouldn't be upset at all to see MKP take the final WoL GSL. if anyone deserves a gsl win it's MKP I'd say Leenock but he's already out so yeah I guess MKP. Taeja should have one too though, he probably had the most dominant run in SC2 history. Life got beaten every now and then I'd go with MKP for having made it to more finals, but just barely But Leenock took more games in finals
Marineking 5 vs leenock 2?
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can you pls siege your tanks, NOW thx
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On January 30 2013 21:40 Alpina wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:36 dreamseller wrote:On January 30 2013 21:29 Alpina wrote:On January 30 2013 21:26 Qikz wrote:On January 30 2013 21:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 30 2013 21:22 Micromnky wrote:
Im so tired of the 'pre splitting' crap. They all have a finite range, and need to attack a single target. You can't pre-split. They all NEED to end up in an arc around their target. Uh...you can pre split. You can pre split sure, but one misclick and everything you have just dies. That's the issue, there's no way of ever stopping being chain fungaled once it's happening. One mistake and you loose all your mutas to thors. One mistake and you lose your half your army due to forcefields. This game is all about your opponent making mistakes and how you take advantage of that. There is a weakness in the analogy of muta vs thors and fungal vs anything Firstly, clumping mutas vs thors is a mistake that is much harder to make than getting caught by fungals. And this is why you hardly ever see it happening whereas these "SICK FUNGALS" most viewers here are so fatigued from seeing Secondly, infestors are mobile and often burrowed, thus should be present in nearly every engagement, thors have nowhere near this mobility so for example with ling/bling/muta even if thors are nearby, it is just a matter of angles of attack with muta, you split your thors for better coverage and they can even get picked off by mutas. whereas against something like BL/infestors the fungals will always catch your army due to their mobility, and the infestors can even be spread really thin across a siege line and get one big fungal off and then the others can come over and finish the job off. Fine, it's harder to control units vs. fungals but my point still remains. Oh and Mvp vikings were all caught by a single fungal, so it's terrible mistake by him.
It doesn't stand because "beautiful fungals" will almost always happen in a macro game. And when it happens it is extremely punishable and you can't correct the error which usually snowballs into terran getting crushed even if the game was even up until that point.
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On January 30 2013 21:41 looken wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2013 21:38 Micromnky wrote:On January 30 2013 21:37 looken wrote:On January 30 2013 21:34 Micromnky wrote:On January 30 2013 21:31 BisuDagger wrote:On January 30 2013 21:28 nunez wrote:On January 30 2013 21:26 Qikz wrote:On January 30 2013 21:23 RPR_Tempest wrote:On January 30 2013 21:22 Micromnky wrote:
Im so tired of the 'pre splitting' crap. They all have a finite range, and need to attack a single target. You can't pre-split. They all NEED to end up in an arc around their target. Uh...you can pre split. You can pre split sure, but one misclick and everything you have just dies. That's the issue, there's no way of ever stopping being chain fungaled once it's happening. you have ample siege tank range to go on. that was a terrible mistake by mvp and he paid the price. Because siege tanks attack air and prevent broodlings from hitting them? They can't hit infestors when their aggro is on broodlings. I do think chain fungaling should be fixed. Like each iterative use last less time would at least be a nicer fix. That would be wonderful. Fungal does a massive amount of damage, and it should. Its the infestors primary attack, for the most part its only attack. But with how they work now, the damage is never ending as long as you have energy. just chill guys, its hots only soon enough and fungal rly doesnt do all that much in hots anymore Yeah its just frustrating. Seeing it evvvveryyyy game. Im definatly looking forward to seeing how HotS will shake things up. yeah i get that on the other hand, although this is probably not the place to discuss it, look what the fungal nerf did to zerg in hots =/
Eh, they did get other buffs, and abilities. Should be cool to see how it all plays out.
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I give RorO a B- grade for trying to play like Life so far
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TASTELESS ROFLMAO AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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