On January 19 2013 12:51 pigmanbear wrote: Does anybody know where to watch the normal Korean cast like you could w/ Brood War proleague (on Youtube before)?
On January 19 2013 12:28 critique wrote: Hey, it's cool. Delays and hiccups never happen on live television, so how could you expect a league to have a contingency plan for something as complicated as a 15 minute delay? In all seriousness, though, how many times have we seen Tasteless and Artosis shoot the shit for 15 minutes while GOM figurs out and fixes some behind the scenes problem? Unexpected problems and delays are an inherent part of any live broadcast, and "disqualify the player/team responsible" just seams like a lazy solution and a disservice to everyone involved.
Except that this wasn't a technical problem or some other hiccup it was purely the player's fault. And yes Kespa has to punish EG-TL here or how else could they make sure that players show up in time. Do you expect them to bend the rules every single time? Don't you think teams would realize that and not worry about showing up in time any longer? the punishment has to be severe because a starting player coming late hurts the broadcast and schedule
Yes, I think generally you expect your players and teams to conduct themselves in a professional manner, which certainly includes showing up to matches on time. This hasn't been some chronic issue with EG-TL though, nor is it part of any consistent lack of professionalism. A simple cell phone call would have shown that Hero and JYP were stuck in traffic, and Kespa should have adjusted their schedule accordingly. From what we know right now, it looks like there was no ill intent or gross lack of responsibility on Hero or JYP's part; getting stuck in traffic seems to be squarely in the "shit happens" category. We have all been late to work because a train broke down or our car popped a tire, but that's life, shit happens. It would seem really inappropriate for an employer to fire an employee or dock him a days pay for that, but it looks like that's what happened here.
Adjust how? You can't sub in another starting player because it's not fair to the other team. The schedule is fixed because it's televised. If kespa starts making concessions about how soon before your match you can show up or gods forbid how late after it's supposed to start there's going to be a lot of problems. It was a one off accident. EG-TL have to accept having been down one player and move on it's not the end of the world.
So the only other ZvZ on Arkanoid was Hydra vs Action, which seemed to be a 3base vs 3base Roach vs Roach battle after several minutes of passive buildup. Seems like this game will be similar.
On January 19 2013 12:51 pigmanbear wrote: Does anybody know where to watch the normal Korean cast like you could w/ Brood War proleague (on Youtube before)?
On January 19 2013 12:28 critique wrote: Hey, it's cool. Delays and hiccups never happen on live television, so how could you expect a league to have a contingency plan for something as complicated as a 15 minute delay? In all seriousness, though, how many times have we seen Tasteless and Artosis shoot the shit for 15 minutes while GOM figurs out and fixes some behind the scenes problem? Unexpected problems and delays are an inherent part of any live broadcast, and "disqualify the player/team responsible" just seams like a lazy solution and a disservice to everyone involved.
Except that this wasn't a technical problem or some other hiccup it was purely the player's fault. And yes Kespa has to punish EG-TL here or how else could they make sure that players show up in time. Do you expect them to bend the rules every single time? Don't you think teams would realize that and not worry about showing up in time any longer? the punishment has to be severe because a starting player coming late hurts the broadcast and schedule
Yes, I think generally you expect your players and teams to conduct themselves in a professional manner, which certainly includes showing up to matches on time. This hasn't been some chronic issue with EG-TL though, nor is it part of any consistent lack of professionalism. A simple cell phone call would have shown that Hero and JYP were stuck in traffic, and Kespa should have adjusted their schedule accordingly. From what we know right now, it looks like there was no ill intent or gross lack of responsibility on Hero or JYP's part; getting stuck in traffic seems to be squarely in the "shit happens" category. We have all been late to work because a train broke down or our car popped a tire, but that's life, shit happens. It would seem really inappropriate for an employer to fire an employee or dock him a days pay for that, but it looks like that's what happened here.
Maybe they should have called then...
There are times in life when you're supposed to be at places sharp. What does that mean. Show up very frigging early to play. It's a simple rule and many places follow it. If time is a factor you take it out of the equation by showing up really early. The plane's not going to wait.
Exactly. I can't to see how a professional organization failed to plan ahead or account for traffic. Why not leave an hour early? What could be more important on that day?
If I was 15 mins late to an interview because of traffic, I wouldn't expect to get the job. In fact, if anyone couldn't show up 15 mins ahead of time, that says something about them.
On January 19 2013 12:28 critique wrote: Hey, it's cool. Delays and hiccups never happen on live television, so how could you expect a league to have a contingency plan for something as complicated as a 15 minute delay? In all seriousness, though, how many times have we seen Tasteless and Artosis shoot the shit for 15 minutes while GOM figurs out and fixes some behind the scenes problem? Unexpected problems and delays are an inherent part of any live broadcast, and "disqualify the player/team responsible" just seams like a lazy solution and a disservice to everyone involved.
Except that this wasn't a technical problem or some other hiccup it was purely the player's fault. And yes Kespa has to punish EG-TL here or how else could they make sure that players show up in time. Do you expect them to bend the rules every single time? Don't you think teams would realize that and not worry about showing up in time any longer? the punishment has to be severe because a starting player coming late hurts the broadcast and schedule
Yes, I think generally you expect your players and teams to conduct themselves in a professional manner, which certainly includes showing up to matches on time. This hasn't been some chronic issue with EG-TL though, nor is it part of any consistent lack of professionalism. A simple cell phone call would have shown that Hero and JYP were stuck in traffic, and Kespa should have adjusted their schedule accordingly. From what we know right now, it looks like there was no ill intent or gross lack of responsibility on Hero or JYP's part; getting stuck in traffic seems to be squarely in the "shit happens" category. We have all been late to work because a train broke down or our car popped a tire, but that's life, shit happens. It would seem really inappropriate for an employer to fire an employee or dock him a days pay for that, but it looks like that's what happened here.
Maybe they should have called then...
There are times in life when you're supposed to be at places sharp. What does that mean. Show up very frigging early to play. It's a simple rule and many places follow it. If time is a factor you take it out of the equation by showing up really early. The plane's not going to wait.
Exactly. I can't to see how a professional organization failed to plan ahead or account for traffic. Why not leave an hour early? What could be more important on that day?
If I was 15 mins late to an interview because of traffic, I wouldn't expect to get the job.
On January 19 2013 12:28 critique wrote: Hey, it's cool. Delays and hiccups never happen on live television, so how could you expect a league to have a contingency plan for something as complicated as a 15 minute delay? In all seriousness, though, how many times have we seen Tasteless and Artosis shoot the shit for 15 minutes while GOM figurs out and fixes some behind the scenes problem? Unexpected problems and delays are an inherent part of any live broadcast, and "disqualify the player/team responsible" just seams like a lazy solution and a disservice to everyone involved.
Except that this wasn't a technical problem or some other hiccup it was purely the player's fault. And yes Kespa has to punish EG-TL here or how else could they make sure that players show up in time. Do you expect them to bend the rules every single time? Don't you think teams would realize that and not worry about showing up in time any longer? the punishment has to be severe because a starting player coming late hurts the broadcast and schedule
Yes, I think generally you expect your players and teams to conduct themselves in a professional manner, which certainly includes showing up to matches on time. This hasn't been some chronic issue with EG-TL though, nor is it part of any consistent lack of professionalism. A simple cell phone call would have shown that Hero and JYP were stuck in traffic, and Kespa should have adjusted their schedule accordingly. From what we know right now, it looks like there was no ill intent or gross lack of responsibility on Hero or JYP's part; getting stuck in traffic seems to be squarely in the "shit happens" category. We have all been late to work because a train broke down or our car popped a tire, but that's life, shit happens. It would seem really inappropriate for an employer to fire an employee or dock him a days pay for that, but it looks like that's what happened here.
Maybe they should have called then...
There are times in life when you're supposed to be at places sharp. What does that mean. Show up very frigging early to play. It's a simple rule and many places follow it. If time is a factor you take it out of the equation by showing up really early. The plane's not going to wait.
Exactly. I can't to see how a professional organization failed to plan ahead or account for traffic. Why not leave an hour early? What could be more important on that day?
If I was 15 mins late to an interview because of traffic, I wouldn't expect to get the job.
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