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On January 12 2013 19:23 tenacity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:20 Angelbelow wrote:
This reaction from some of you guys is probably the most disappointing part. This! JYP wasnt a bad choice and he really played with this whole heart. I was cheering for Huk to secure his win but meh T.T; He must feel very bad
JYP is a great player and I have nothing against him, but that map is not good for PvZ. Any Protoss is a bad choice here. Actually Zenio or Thorzain might be better in this case.
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On January 12 2013 19:24 Arco wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:20 Angelbelow wrote:
This reaction from some of you guys is probably the most disappointing part. Although it's pretty lame that you can't ladder on these Proleague maps in SC2. Had that been possible, JYP probably wouldn't have gotten caught off guard so easily.
Made my day, LOL.
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On January 12 2013 19:26 Diks wrote:
Sending JYP on that map was suicidal. JYP¨did actually great given the postiion he was in. Can't blame JYP, just the decision to send him on this map vs zerg. EG-TL coach has a lot to learn
Lack of preperation can be blamed on JYP and EG-TL, JYP did not know how to handle early herass, that tells me JYP didn't practice this map to the fullest.
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On January 12 2013 19:26 Nadril wrote:
Taeja couldnt be used. Hero is looking super shaky right now. JD not there (and jetlaged anyways).
So what, send out zenio? He hasnt done anything in ages. Thorzain? Puma?
Anyways that map really is awful. Great idea giving zerg a thousand points of attack to your natural with fast dying rocks.
Such massive parallels between the Kespa maps. On one hand there are the godlike rocks on Arkanoid while the rocks here exploded from a light wind
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On January 12 2013 19:28 BlackPanther wrote:
I honestly think that the map screwed JYP as opposed to JYP being incompetent. The fact that he was able to hold after a heavy muta, ling, and roach attacks demonstrates his resourcefulness. If the rocks weren't so easy to eliminate then JYP would have played much better against Hydra.
That's like saying that the zerglings screwed JYP over and it wasn't his fault. The map is part of the game. He didn't prepare well enough for it.
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On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history No map can touch Steppes of War I think Lost Temple was the worst...
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On January 12 2013 19:26 Nadril wrote:
Taeja couldnt be used. Hero is looking super shaky right now. JD not there (and jetlaged anyways).
So what, send out zenio? He hasnt done anything in ages. Thorzain? Puma?
Anyways that map really is awful. Great idea giving zerg a thousand points of attack to your natural with fast dying rocks.
Zenio proved himself as capable in ZvZ so it should be considered and TaeJa was there, I think he would be able to play. HerO looks "shaky" but I still think he is better than JYP. The main problem was that JYP was completly unprepared for that 10 pool with the rocks destroyed. The coach should warn him about things like that.
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On January 12 2013 19:27 Meggiroth wrote:
This is becoming way way too stupid. I'd make a petition to EG-TL leadership to change that tard coach.
He just threw away another win with stupid decisions.
Yes, because us posters know so much better than the coaches... How many people here ripped January when they sent Shine out as ace earlier today?
Seriously, if you guys want to make the player decision. You can try to apply for the job. But don't be surprised when you get laughed at.
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On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history No map can touch Steppes of War I think Lost Temple was the worst...
All that means is that... people... liked the ambience with the reaver battles?
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On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history No map can touch Steppes of War I think Lost Temple was the worst...
so how bad does Snow feel being that one protoss guy?
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On January 12 2013 19:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history No map can touch Steppes of War I think Lost Temple was the worst... so how bad does Snow feel being that one protoss guy?
He lost to Yellow sooo ehhh?
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On January 12 2013 19:30 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:27 Meggiroth wrote:
This is becoming way way too stupid. I'd make a petition to EG-TL leadership to change that tard coach.
He just threw away another win with stupid decisions. Yes, because us posters know so much better than the coaches... How many people here ripped January when they sent Shine out as ace earlier today? Seriously, if you guys want to make the player decision. You can try to apply for the job. But don't be surprised when you get laughed at.
I don't fault the decision to send out JYP, it just seemed the coach did not prepare JYP for the map properly given how strong the 10 pool was.
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Awww. Stephano so cute when he type 'gl, hf' :D
My heart melted
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So sad the posts peeps make targeting 1 player, there were 4 matches lost, not 1 by the last player. Mistakes happen in any match, but i saw alot of good stuff too. There is certainly room for improvement regarding the next match, but theyll get there, dont worry they all have the talent
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Has it ever been confirmed how the line ups are chosen, is it Hwanni or the coach or do EG-TL player managers get together with Hwanni/Coach and set up a big 'what if' list for who to come out when/where. It would be cool to know how it works.
Not the greatest player picks imo but we never know the full reasons behind them.
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To people that are saying "Dont blame the map"... explain me how can you defend an early poll in a map that has 3 ways to get in your natural ?
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On January 12 2013 19:31 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history No map can touch Steppes of War I think Lost Temple was the worst... All that means is that... people... liked the ambience with the reaver battles?
Snow is the only protoss to ever lose to another race on this map, ever.
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On January 12 2013 19:29 rasers wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:27 Meggiroth wrote:
This is becoming way way too stupid. I'd make a petition to EG-TL leadership to change that tard coach.
He just threw away another win with stupid decisions. what would you say if hero gets send out and chokes? like he did many times before? cause he is so emotional.
Hero is still 100 times better overall than JYP and also he is really good vs Zerg. Hero would have stomped Hydra with his monitor closed and hands tied to his back.
Even Taeja would have won.
And Jaedong eats GSL zergs for breakfast.
HOW TF can you send out JYP in this situation? What did the other players worked and won points for? So all would go down the drain by a really stupid coach decision?
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Probably JYP is destroying in practice but the pressure of ace is too much too soon.
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On January 12 2013 19:26 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2013 19:25 SideStepKing wrote:
So the rocks were about little more halfway dead when JYP threw down that cannon right? Cannon build time is 40 seconds and 6-8 lings destroyed the rocks with like about 5 seconds left for the cannon to finish... That seems ridiculous that starting lings can do that much damage... Not sure to conclude whether the map is imbalanced because rocks have no armor, or JYP was unprepared. Watching that game was just plain stupid. Remember that he could also have walled off at the bottom of his ramp instead of an entrance.
Hmm yeah thats true. But with 3 avenues of attack in the natural. I think JYP and other Protosses (I'm going on a whim here because I'm not certain) can't really safely take the base because they have to defend from those 3 avenues. I may not be the most knowledgeable person but defending early aggression from Zerg with Protoss on that maybe doesn't to be done well yet, because I don't think anyone was able to do it so far...
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