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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
January 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#3001
On January 12 2013 19:23 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:20 Angelbelow wrote:
This reaction from some of you guys is probably the most disappointing part.


This! JYP wasnt a bad choice and he really played with this whole heart. I was cheering for Huk to secure his win but meh T.T; He must feel very bad

JYP is a great player and I have nothing against him, but that map is not good for PvZ. Any Protoss is a bad choice here. Actually Zenio or Thorzain might be better in this case.
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
January 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#3002
On January 12 2013 19:24 Arco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:20 Angelbelow wrote:
This reaction from some of you guys is probably the most disappointing part.

Although it's pretty lame that you can't ladder on these Proleague maps in SC2. Had that been possible, JYP probably wouldn't have gotten caught off guard so easily.

Made my day, LOL.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. 우정호 1988 - 2012
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#3003
On January 12 2013 19:26 Diks wrote:
Sending JYP on that map was suicidal. JYP¨did actually great given the postiion he was in. Can't blame JYP, just the decision to send him on this map vs zerg. EG-TL coach has a lot to learn


Lack of preperation can be blamed on JYP and EG-TL, JYP did not know how to handle early herass, that tells me JYP didn't practice this map to the fullest.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
January 12 2013 10:29 GMT
#3004
On January 12 2013 19:26 Nadril wrote:
Taeja couldnt be used. Hero is looking super shaky right now. JD not there (and jetlaged anyways).

So what, send out zenio? He hasnt done anything in ages. Thorzain? Puma?


Anyways that map really is awful. Great idea giving zerg a thousand points of attack to your natural with fast dying rocks.


Such massive parallels between the Kespa maps. On one hand there are the godlike rocks on Arkanoid while the rocks here exploded from a light wind
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#3005
On January 12 2013 19:28 BlackPanther wrote:
I honestly think that the map screwed JYP as opposed to JYP being incompetent. The fact that he was able to hold after a heavy muta, ling, and roach attacks demonstrates his resourcefulness. If the rocks weren't so easy to eliminate then JYP would have played much better against Hydra.


That's like saying that the zerglings screwed JYP over and it wasn't his fault. The map is part of the game. He didn't prepare well enough for it.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#3006
On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history

No map can touch Steppes of War

I think Lost Temple was the worst...


[image loading]
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
January 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#3007
On January 12 2013 19:26 Nadril wrote:
Taeja couldnt be used. Hero is looking super shaky right now. JD not there (and jetlaged anyways).

So what, send out zenio? He hasnt done anything in ages. Thorzain? Puma?


Anyways that map really is awful. Great idea giving zerg a thousand points of attack to your natural with fast dying rocks.

Zenio proved himself as capable in ZvZ so it should be considered and TaeJa was there, I think he would be able to play. HerO looks "shaky" but I still think he is better than JYP. The main problem was that JYP was completly unprepared for that 10 pool with the rocks destroyed. The coach should warn him about things like that.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 12 2013 10:30 GMT
#3008
On January 12 2013 19:27 Meggiroth wrote:
This is becoming way way too stupid. I'd make a petition to EG-TL leadership to change that tard coach.
He just threw away another win with stupid decisions.


Yes, because us posters know so much better than the coaches... How many people here ripped January when they sent Shine out as ace earlier today?

Seriously, if you guys want to make the player decision. You can try to apply for the job. But don't be surprised when you get laughed at.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
January 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#3009
On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history

No map can touch Steppes of War

I think Lost Temple was the worst...


[image loading]


All that means is that... people... liked the ambience with the reaver battles?
In Inca we trust
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#3010
On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history

No map can touch Steppes of War

I think Lost Temple was the worst...


[image loading]

so how bad does Snow feel being that one protoss guy?
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#3011
On January 12 2013 19:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history

No map can touch Steppes of War

I think Lost Temple was the worst...


[image loading]

so how bad does Snow feel being that one protoss guy?


He lost to Yellow sooo ehhh?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
January 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#3012
On January 12 2013 19:30 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:27 Meggiroth wrote:
This is becoming way way too stupid. I'd make a petition to EG-TL leadership to change that tard coach.
He just threw away another win with stupid decisions.


Yes, because us posters know so much better than the coaches... How many people here ripped January when they sent Shine out as ace earlier today?

Seriously, if you guys want to make the player decision. You can try to apply for the job. But don't be surprised when you get laughed at.

I don't fault the decision to send out JYP, it just seemed the coach did not prepare JYP for the map properly given how strong the 10 pool was.
Squide
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden141 Posts
January 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#3013
Awww. Stephano so cute when he type 'gl, hf' :D
My heart melted
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#3014
So sad the posts peeps make targeting 1 player, there were 4 matches lost, not 1 by the last player. Mistakes happen in any match, but i saw alot of good stuff too. There is certainly room for improvement regarding the next match, but theyll get there, dont worry they all have the talent
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#3015
Has it ever been confirmed how the line ups are chosen, is it Hwanni or the coach or do EG-TL player managers get together with Hwanni/Coach and set up a big 'what if' list for who to come out when/where. It would be cool to know how it works.

Not the greatest player picks imo but we never know the full reasons behind them.
His_fas
Profile Joined December 2012
20 Posts
January 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#3016
To people that are saying "Dont blame the map"... explain me how can you defend an early poll in a map that has 3 ways to get in your natural ?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
January 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#3017
On January 12 2013 19:31 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:30 Caihead wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:26 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:25 Haee wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history

No map can touch Steppes of War

I think Lost Temple was the worst...


[image loading]


All that means is that... people... liked the ambience with the reaver battles?


Snow is the only protoss to ever lose to another race on this map, ever.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
January 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#3018
On January 12 2013 19:29 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:27 Meggiroth wrote:
This is becoming way way too stupid. I'd make a petition to EG-TL leadership to change that tard coach.
He just threw away another win with stupid decisions.

what would you say if hero gets send out and chokes? like he did many times before? cause he is so emotional.


Hero is still 100 times better overall than JYP and also he is really good vs Zerg. Hero would have stomped Hydra with his monitor closed and hands tied to his back.
Even Taeja would have won.
And Jaedong eats GSL zergs for breakfast.
HOW TF can you send out JYP in this situation? What did the other players worked and won points for? So all would go down the drain by a really stupid coach decision?
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 12 2013 10:34 GMT
#3019
Probably JYP is destroying in practice but the pressure of ace is too much too soon.
SideStepKing
Profile Joined December 2012
11 Posts
January 12 2013 10:34 GMT
#3020
On January 12 2013 19:26 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:25 SideStepKing wrote:
So the rocks were about little more halfway dead when JYP threw down that cannon right? Cannon build time is 40 seconds and 6-8 lings destroyed the rocks with like about 5 seconds left for the cannon to finish... That seems ridiculous that starting lings can do that much damage... Not sure to conclude whether the map is imbalanced because rocks have no armor, or JYP was unprepared. Watching that game was just plain stupid.


Remember that he could also have walled off at the bottom of his ramp instead of an entrance.


Hmm yeah thats true. But with 3 avenues of attack in the natural. I think JYP and other Protosses (I'm going on a whim here because I'm not certain) can't really safely take the base because they have to defend from those 3 avenues. I may not be the most knowledgeable person but defending early aggression from Zerg with Protoss on that maybe doesn't to be done well yet, because I don't think anyone was able to do it so far...
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