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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
January 12 2013 10:24 GMT
#2961
On January 12 2013 19:22 ETisME wrote:
PEOPLE:
TAEJA HAD OPERATION SO HE WASN'T THERE.

Can you all saying taeja should be out now? If you were such fan of Taeja/liquid, shouldn't you know this by now??


Well he was there. But I kinda didn't see any news about his operation at all so that's why people confuse why they don't send Taeja out.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 12 2013 10:24 GMT
#2962
On January 12 2013 19:23 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:20 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 rasers wrote:
JYP wins. no one gives a fuck.
JYP loses "OMG WHY DO THEY SEND HIM OUT OMG WHY? HE IS SO FUCKING AWFUL."

even tho he is playing better then hero and dong in PL.

Hero has proved himself far more outside of PL. JYP hasn't done much in the past year.

I feel like sending out HerO as ace would be as bad as sending MarineKing as ace in a team league


I agree... Though I also don't think JYP has the nerves for an ace match either. MAYBE better than Hero I guess, but hard to say. He was sweating and looked pretty damn nervous before the game had even started.


Jeesh, the world has come that JYP is considered better than Hero.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
January 12 2013 10:24 GMT
#2963
On January 12 2013 19:23 yawnoC wrote:
I think that TaeJa or even Revival would have been better in the ace slot on that map. Also sucks that Jaedong wasn't there to be used.

If only JYP surrounded his cannon might have been a diffrent story
I love JYP but I just don't think he is an ace. He is really good in the 2,3,4 or 5 slot though.


Can't send someone who's already played in allkill format
skYTosS
Profile Joined January 2013
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 10:25:19
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2964
On January 12 2013 19:20 Raigeki wrote:
i thought u need to have atleast 1 representative for each race to play proleague, or was that just for round one? i asked cause eg-tl didnt send out a terran


I think because in winner's league, you can only send out 4 players total, not like 6 players in regular format, so the race requirement will be too hard to follow with only 4 players to play. So, they probably dropped that race requirement for winner's league.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 10:25:35
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2965
On January 12 2013 19:24 las91 wrote:
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On January 12 2013 19:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:20 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 rasers wrote:
JYP wins. no one gives a fuck.
JYP loses "OMG WHY DO THEY SEND HIM OUT OMG WHY? HE IS SO FUCKING AWFUL."

even tho he is playing better then hero and dong in PL.

Hero has proved himself far more outside of PL. JYP hasn't done much in the past year.

I feel like sending out HerO as ace would be as bad as sending MarineKing as ace in a team league


Except for the fact MKP has actually carried his team to GSTL Finals victories.

but not as the ace. he always crashes in burns when he's the ace. It's nice to send those kind of players out as the second or third. If you're going to use HerO you have to use him earlier imo. same for Marineking for Prime in GSTL
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KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2966
What's the thing that happened between stephano and herO?
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Haee
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
522 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2967
On January 12 2013 19:19 darkshad30000 wrote:
I really think this is the most imbalanced Map i have ever seen il SC2 history

No map can touch Steppes of War
grapedog
Profile Joined August 2010
United States151 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2968
i wouldn't even say JYP bombed his game. Though I would agree that initial cannon may have been a little slow, he put up a pretty damn good defense for the next 10+ minutes to vastly superior army composition and numbers, with a worse economy. I think he could easily have won if he had held that first push, even just a little better.
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2969
On January 12 2013 19:22 ETisME wrote:
PEOPLE:
TAEJA HAD OPERATION SO HE WASN'T THERE.

Can you all saying taeja should be out now? If you were such fan of Taeja/liquid, shouldn't you know this by now??


He was there, did you even look at the teams inbetween games ?
If he could or could not play is a different story, captain capslock.
SideStepKing
Profile Joined December 2012
11 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2970
So the rocks were about little more halfway dead when JYP threw down that cannon right? Cannon build time is 40 seconds and 6-8 lings destroyed the rocks with like about 5 seconds left for the cannon to finish... That seems ridiculous that starting lings can do that much damage... Not sure to conclude whether the map is imbalanced because rocks have no armor, or JYP was unprepared. Watching that game was just plain stupid.
Signus
Profile Joined February 2009
United States269 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2971
Another heartbreaking loss for EG-TL. I think it's time to try something new for the Ace Match, because JYP's PvZ doesn't seem to be strong enough right now to get them over that final hurdle when called upon. Maybe they need to rest their hopes on Jaedong's shoulders and hope that the legend of JvZ has transferred over to SC2. Or perhaps now that Stephano is here, he can throw his weight around like the ace he is, provided he doesn't get disqualified first.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 12 2013 10:25 GMT
#2972
On January 12 2013 19:25 KillAudio wrote:
What's the thing that happened between stephano and herO?


Stephano said "GL HF"

Thats some massive BM
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2973
On January 12 2013 19:22 Mycl wrote:
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On January 12 2013 19:20 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 Vesky wrote:
Here's the thing, who else could they send out?

Taeja is apparently still recuperating? Hero is probably in a poor emotional state.

So...Puma?


Vs a zerg there is no reason to not send hero. If you don't use him vs t or z why even have this amazing protoss in your team?


There is a reason you dont send out Hero in a PvZ because you have JYP to send out in PvZ. Its such a coin flip between those 2 so I don't understand all the salt in this thread

Because HerO has beaten amazing zergs in the last several months in championship situations, while JYP has not. I don't get why the "conventional wisdom" is that JYP's PvZ is so amazing.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2974
On January 12 2013 19:24 Arco wrote:
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On January 12 2013 19:20 Angelbelow wrote:
This reaction from some of you guys is probably the most disappointing part.

Yeah, pretty much. People complaining about "map imbalance" because you have to prepare your FE slightly differently. It's not imbalance that JYP failed to prepare for PvZ on this map.

Although it's pretty lame that you can't ladder on these Proleague maps in SC2. Had that been possible, JYP probably wouldn't have gotten caught off guard so easily. Even top level pros including players on KeSPA teams rely on ladder to practice. In BW, you just hopped on a third party server like ICCUP and could ladder on tons of different maps...I hope Blizzard comes up with a solution to this soon.


Am I going insane, or have I seen you make the second part of that post word for word multiple times before?
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Nadril
Profile Joined March 2012
68 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2975
Taeja couldnt be used. Hero is looking super shaky right now. JD not there (and jetlaged anyways).

So what, send out zenio? He hasnt done anything in ages. Thorzain? Puma?


Anyways that map really is awful. Great idea giving zerg a thousand points of attack to your natural with fast dying rocks.
Kerwin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2976
On January 12 2013 19:25 skYTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:20 Raigeki wrote:
i thought u need to have atleast 1 representative for each race to play proleague, or was that just for round one? i asked cause eg-tl didnt send out a terran


I think because in winner's league, you can only send out 4 players total, not like 6 players in regular format, so the race requirement will be too hard to follow with only 4 players to play. So, they probably dropped that race requirement for winner's league.

Yeah, you can't have that rule for Winner's League because then if you all-kill you only sent out one race.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2977
Sending JYP on that map was suicidal. JYP¨did actually great given the postiion he was in. Can't blame JYP, just the decision to send him on this map vs zerg. EG-TL coach has a lot to learn
Geos13
Profile Joined May 2011
437 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2978
Other than the botched 10 pool defense, JYP played really well. Hopefully he isn't to shaken up by the loss.
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2979
On January 12 2013 19:22 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:20 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 12 2013 19:19 rasers wrote:
JYP wins. no one gives a fuck.
JYP loses "OMG WHY DO THEY SEND HIM OUT OMG WHY? HE IS SO FUCKING AWFUL."

even tho he is playing better then hero and dong in PL.

Hero has proved himself far more outside of PL. JYP hasn't done much in the past year.

Except what's more important in PL is.... what happens in PL. JYP is putting out better results than Hero in PL.

That would only be true if players had broodwaresquely extensive records. (Sea for example being a proleague hero)
But given that this is basically 1st proper SC2 Spl season the only information you can rely on are games outside of proleague.
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
January 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#2980
On January 12 2013 19:25 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:25 KillAudio wrote:
What's the thing that happened between stephano and herO?


Stephano said "GL HF"

Thats some massive BM

What, why?! Am I missing something here?
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
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