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On January 11 2013 22:08 thesums wrote:
stephano still needs to prove himself in gsl, i still need to see whether stephano is actually as good as everyone says he is.
Well just watch his fucking games and judge for yourself.
2-3 GSL matches won't be representative for anything.
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On January 11 2013 22:17 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:08 thesums wrote:
stephano still needs to prove himself in gsl, i still need to see whether stephano is actually as good as everyone says he is. His ZvZ is not even high Code B level. His ZvT is fantastic, shown in his success even before the Queen patch. He engages better than almost any other Zerg. His ZvP, while not as dominant as it was in the era of the roach max, is still very strong and good enough to take games off of most Code S toss players on any given day. So, I don't know if he will "prove himself"-- as if he gets a group with many Zergs, well he simply isn't going to beat world class Zergs in a best of 5-- but he definitely can beat any Terran on the planet and I would favor him over many Terrans in Code S.
id say his ZvZ is on code a level if only because of his mechanics, map awareness and reacion
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On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Show nested quote +Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything
What? Did you even watch the game? He tried to take center several times and he had medivacs all over the place trying to drop. It is just this no infestor style is very mobile and designed to hold that 4th base.
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Such a shame JD didn't get through... Can't believe he threw that massive lead he had in the last game he played.
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On January 11 2013 22:25 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything What? Did you even watch the game? He tried to take center several times and he had medivacs all over the place trying to drop. It is just this no infestor style is very mobile and designed to hold that 4th base.
I didn't see that game but what's about Mc vs Yonghwa. Yonghwa one gate expand in PVP. What ?
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On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Show nested quote +Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything
Except the fact that most of the Kespa players played so poorly that the other games outcome did even matter.
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On January 11 2013 22:32 Zerofinal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:25 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything What? Did you even watch the game? He tried to take center several times and he had medivacs all over the place trying to drop. It is just this no infestor style is very mobile and designed to hold that 4th base. I didn't see that game but what's about Mc vs Yonghwa. Yonghwa one gate expand in PVP. What ?
And Yonghwa was 0-5 that day. And Flash didn't build a bunker vs P. What? It was obvious Flash was trying to throw against MC, right?
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On January 11 2013 22:32 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything Except the fact that most of the Kespa players played so poorly that the other games outcome did even matter.
You must use your brain and accept that the format isn't good for KESPA vs ESF. However, i accept Kepsa players aren't good enough.
-Fantasy Bad macro
-JD don't understand game
-SOS no comment (very bad)
-Flying no comment (very bad)
-Flash i think he is good enough but he doesn't have experince
-Trap no comment (very bad)
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Seems so random, ties for 2nd twice and misses out both times...
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On January 11 2013 22:38 Scarecrow wrote:
Seems so random, ties for 2nd twice and misses out both times...
Seems pretty consistent to me :p
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On January 11 2013 22:37 Zerofinal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:32 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything Except the fact that most of the Kespa players played so poorly that the other games outcome did even matter. You must use your brain and accept that the format isn't good for KESPA vs ESF. However, i accept Kepsa players aren't good enough. -Fantasy Bad macro -JD don't understand game -SOS no comment (very bad) -Flying no comment (very bad) -Flash i think he is good enough but he doesn't have experince -Trap no comment (very bad)
I must use my brain? Why do you think you got warned for that post?
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On January 11 2013 22:39 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:37 Zerofinal wrote:On January 11 2013 22:32 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything Except the fact that most of the Kespa players played so poorly that the other games outcome did even matter. You must use your brain and accept that the format isn't good for KESPA vs ESF. However, i accept Kepsa players aren't good enough. -Fantasy Bad macro -JD don't understand game -SOS no comment (very bad) -Flying no comment (very bad) -Flash i think he is good enough but he doesn't have experince -Trap no comment (very bad) I must use my brain? Why do you think you got warned for that post?
NO comment for you. You should think carefully without bias that the format favor for ESF. In addition, I see person who lose to MC fast stalker before. However, 1 gate expand and no scout in PVP is unacceptable for that map
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On January 11 2013 21:34 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 21:32 mongmong wrote:On January 11 2013 21:18 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:18 ikh wrote:
with all the love to my favorite bw player, jaedong doesn't really deserve a code s spot going by the level of play he's shown today.
and with all due respect to gom, fuck this round robin bo1 model. Jaedong is heavily jetlagged and not used to being jetlagged he 4-2 MC in convincing fasion if you cvan dot aht you deserve code S No code s player throws infestors/baneling in a way jaedong does. Admit it dude, Jaedong isnt code s level. He has been given two chances and blew both of them. Whose fault is it?Think about it  you dont know what jetlag is do you
youre actually being dillusional.
Jaedong has been throwing infestors/banelings all the time, even when he wasnt JETLAGGED.
how are you going to explain his match against MC where he lost 6~8 infestors to phoenixes?
Did you see his games against sirius where both players looked like they were trying to throw as
many banelings as possible? Jesus christ your fanboysm disgust me, and the excuse youre making
for him is even more pathetic.
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JD you're breaking my heart bro
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On January 11 2013 22:45 Zerofinal wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:39 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 22:37 Zerofinal wrote:On January 11 2013 22:32 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything Except the fact that most of the Kespa players played so poorly that the other games outcome did even matter. You must use your brain and accept that the format isn't good for KESPA vs ESF. However, i accept Kepsa players aren't good enough. -Fantasy Bad macro -JD don't understand game -SOS no comment (very bad) -Flying no comment (very bad) -Flash i think he is good enough but he doesn't have experince -Trap no comment (very bad) I must use my brain? Why do you think you got warned for that post? NO comment for you. You should think carefully without bias that the format favor for ESF. In addition, I see person who lose to MC fast stalker before. However, 1 gate expand and no scout in PVP is unacceptable for that map
YOU should think carefully before you start accusing players of throwing games just because they want eSF players to advance.
Also, for the Yonghwa MC game, Yonghwa didn't lose because his build. He lost because his warp prism with 2 immortals in it got picked off.
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On January 11 2013 23:36 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 21:34 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:32 mongmong wrote:On January 11 2013 21:18 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:18 ikh wrote:
with all the love to my favorite bw player, jaedong doesn't really deserve a code s spot going by the level of play he's shown today.
and with all due respect to gom, fuck this round robin bo1 model. Jaedong is heavily jetlagged and not used to being jetlagged he 4-2 MC in convincing fasion if you cvan dot aht you deserve code S No code s player throws infestors/baneling in a way jaedong does. Admit it dude, Jaedong isnt code s level. He has been given two chances and blew both of them. Whose fault is it?Think about it you dont know what jetlag is do you Jesus christ your fanboysm disgust me, and the excuse youre making for him is even more pathetic.
wow, that's seems a bit extrem... :o
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On January 11 2013 23:46 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:45 Zerofinal wrote:On January 11 2013 22:39 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 22:37 Zerofinal wrote:On January 11 2013 22:32 vthree wrote:On January 11 2013 21:59 Forikorder wrote:On January 11 2013 21:57 TeeTS wrote:On January 11 2013 21:55 Zerofinal wrote:
I think this format isn't good because i see every persons who already advance or no chance to advance give their game to the people they love.
I think ESF players give their win to ESF friend to prevent KESPA players in code S.
According to low KESPA players, it is hard for KESPA to advance. I think You sir just wrote the biggest bullshit of the day. Congratulations! its not that big bullshit, the EsF players are probably at least worried about KeSPA palyers and if your already guaranteed to advance and your palying a friend your not going to fight tooth and nail, never give up never surrender to win your jsut gonna treat it as a practice game or ladder match that your gonna try to win but not really cling to that much Since you are so clever and know this game so well, why don't you englighten us and tell us what Byun should've done to kill that 4th base of symbol? i dont see why he didnt marine tank, slow push the middle base while using drops against the farther away base as multiprong instead he just seemed to throw away his early game advantage and not really do much of anything Except the fact that most of the Kespa players played so poorly that the other games outcome did even matter. You must use your brain and accept that the format isn't good for KESPA vs ESF. However, i accept Kepsa players aren't good enough. -Fantasy Bad macro -JD don't understand game -SOS no comment (very bad) -Flying no comment (very bad) -Flash i think he is good enough but he doesn't have experince -Trap no comment (very bad) I must use my brain? Why do you think you got warned for that post? NO comment for you. You should think carefully without bias that the format favor for ESF. In addition, I see person who lose to MC fast stalker before. However, 1 gate expand and no scout in PVP is unacceptable for that map YOU should think carefully before you start accusing players of throwing games just because they want eSF players to advance. Also, for the Yonghwa MC game, Yonghwa didn't lose because his build. He lost because his warp prism with 2 immortals in it got picked off.
Are you optimisitc man? Yonghwa can help his friend to go to code S. If i were Yonghwa, i would do the same thing. You are very naive. I don't tell you that they want ESF to advance but they help their friend. IF you are ESF fan boy, you must talk about this without bias. I admit KESPA players isn't good enough. You must admit Progamers play for money.
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On January 11 2013 22:22 00Visor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:08 thesums wrote:
stephano still needs to prove himself in gsl, i still need to see whether stephano is actually as good as everyone says he is. Well just watch his fucking games and judge for yourself. 2-3 GSL matches won't be representative for anything.
Actually it will that's the point of having GSL matches. If GSL has shown us anything, it's that so called foreign monsters never quite seem to cut it. (bluntly; no one invited to a free GSL spot has ever won the GSL)
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On January 12 2013 00:17 Confuse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2013 22:22 00Visor wrote:On January 11 2013 22:08 thesums wrote:
stephano still needs to prove himself in gsl, i still need to see whether stephano is actually as good as everyone says he is. Well just watch his fucking games and judge for yourself. 2-3 GSL matches won't be representative for anything. Actually it will that's the point of having GSL matches. If GSL has shown us anything, it's that so called foreign monsters never quite seem to cut it. (bluntly; no one invited to a free GSL spot has ever won the GSL)
Well Naniwa did pretty well with his Seed as did Huk (Code A Seed). So it's not totally correct what you wrote, allthough it is for most of the seeds.
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