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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 11 2013 12:34 GMT
#1341
On January 11 2013 21:31 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:30 Ghanburighan wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 decado90 wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?



It's not, it's the biggest myth in all of SC2 and it's fucking stupid.

Terran has a LOSING record on Antiga vs Z and P in 2012. People are just morons.


Educate me: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/500_Antiga_Shipyard_1.2



herp derp.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=maps&id=500&part=games&matchup=TvZ&league=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2013&to_month=1&to_day=10&action=Update



Like I said, 2012


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=maps&id=500&part=games&matchup=TvZ&league=any&from_year=2012&from_month=7&from_day=1&to_year=2013&to_month=1&to_day=10&action=Update

- laughably bad post patch


Interesting, Z has a pretty solid record on Antiga pretty much no matter which dates you choose. Hello, zerg shipyard.

P.S. Don't be rude.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 11 2013 12:35 GMT
#1342
On January 11 2013 21:32 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:28 Hiea wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:18 Forikorder wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:18 ikh wrote:
with all the love to my favorite bw player, jaedong doesn't really deserve a code s spot going by the level of play he's shown today.

and with all due respect to gom, fuck this round robin bo1 model.

Jaedong is heavily jetlagged and not used to being jetlagged

he 4-2 MC in convincing fasion if you cvan dot aht you deserve code S

And the day before that, MC took down Jaedong 3-1, and the day before that, MC defeated Jaedong 1-0.

the 1-0 matters not at all its one game

the 3-1 jsut means that A) JD had jetlag and B) shows how terrifyingly fast JD is improving

watching the finals showed how much JD improved within the series


You can always find some weird reasoning.

One single series doesnt prove anyone to be in Code S. And MC is not exactly top tier, more like borderline Code S.
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
January 11 2013 12:35 GMT
#1343
On January 11 2013 21:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On January 11 2013 21:27 Glubschauge wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Fragile51 wrote:
Weird, no matches planned next week? Wonder the downtime is for D:


preparation!

and the group selection i guess. talking about that. does anyone know when it will be?

well only Sniper and HyuN get to pick a player. Then they do the randomization based off the 4 tiers. I would assume in the next day or two probably


oh right,.. i forgot that the group selection with the players were only the ro 16groups...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 11 2013 12:35 GMT
#1344
On January 11 2013 21:33 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:27 Caihead wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?


The three base terran play and constantly denying the zerg's fourth while taking your fourth is pretty good vs Zerg.

You can't take your fourth because of the creep. And three base terran ain't enough to deny the zerg fourth, as shown in this game.
ByuN was even ahead in upgrades lol.

are you trying to say 3 base Zerg > 3 bast terran?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 11 2013 12:36 GMT
#1345
On January 11 2013 21:34 vthree wrote:
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On January 11 2013 21:30 Insoleet wrote:
So that means, only esf players (and players who were there at the first season of the GSL !) in the last season of WoL ?


Nope, Bogus and Soulkey are already in from making Top 8 last season, Baby, Roro got in direct from Ro24 Code A so there are 4 Kespa players+ Show Spoiler +
and PartinG

and Mvp, Zergbong, Iron, Clare, etc
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 11 2013 12:37 GMT
#1346
On January 11 2013 21:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
woah, iam probably one of the few that is actually glad that Jaedong didnt make it.
never liked that fanboy hype around him and hes clearly weaker than the people make him. (same applys to Flash)

so glad for Byun, opterown should be happy ^^

ignorance is the second name?
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
January 11 2013 12:37 GMT
#1347
TT Jaedong..
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 11 2013 12:38 GMT
#1348
On January 11 2013 21:35 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 Caihead wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?


The three base terran play and constantly denying the zerg's fourth while taking your fourth is pretty good vs Zerg.

You can't take your fourth because of the creep. And three base terran ain't enough to deny the zerg fourth, as shown in this game.
ByuN was even ahead in upgrades lol.

are you trying to say 3 base Zerg > 3 bast terran?


No. But 3 saturated base Zerg > 3 unsaturated base Terran. So Zerg can use that timing to take a four.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
January 11 2013 12:38 GMT
#1349
On January 11 2013 21:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:30 Insoleet wrote:
So that means, only esf players (and players who were there at the first season of the GSL !) in the last season of WoL ?


ESF + RorO, Baby, Bogus (Innovation), and Soulkey

edit: oh and there's also soon to be PartinG if you want to now count him as a Kespa, lol.


no counting the traitor
FlyingDagger
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada61 Posts
January 11 2013 12:38 GMT
#1350
Aww poor Jaedong, would of been nice to see him in Code S
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12902 Posts
January 11 2013 12:39 GMT
#1351
On January 11 2013 21:35 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 Caihead wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?


The three base terran play and constantly denying the zerg's fourth while taking your fourth is pretty good vs Zerg.

You can't take your fourth because of the creep. And three base terran ain't enough to deny the zerg fourth, as shown in this game.
ByuN was even ahead in upgrades lol.

are you trying to say 3 base Zerg > 3 bast terran?

No I'm saying I don't understand how antiga is supposed to be terran favored.
WriterMaru
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 11 2013 12:39 GMT
#1352
well, overall the results are ok, they shall all play HoTs so it does not matter much for me who shall be in code S this year. Hope to see some really nice changes with the expansion arrival, and finally some credibility to SC2 future.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 11 2013 12:40 GMT
#1353
On January 11 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:35 Forikorder wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 Caihead wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?


The three base terran play and constantly denying the zerg's fourth while taking your fourth is pretty good vs Zerg.

You can't take your fourth because of the creep. And three base terran ain't enough to deny the zerg fourth, as shown in this game.
ByuN was even ahead in upgrades lol.

are you trying to say 3 base Zerg > 3 bast terran?

No I'm saying I don't understand how antiga is supposed to be terran favored.

because if the terran wants to he can prevent the Zerg from ever holding a 4th so the Zerg has to 3 base all-in
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 11 2013 12:40 GMT
#1354
Awesome results, was hoping those two would advance. :-)
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 11 2013 12:41 GMT
#1355
On January 11 2013 21:38 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:30 Insoleet wrote:
So that means, only esf players (and players who were there at the first season of the GSL !) in the last season of WoL ?


ESF + RorO, Baby, Bogus (Innovation), and Soulkey

edit: oh and there's also soon to be PartinG if you want to now count him as a Kespa, lol.


no counting the traitor

I'm sure they shall all move to Kespa sooner or later anyway. Parting is just the first bird.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12902 Posts
January 11 2013 12:42 GMT
#1356
On January 11 2013 21:40 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:35 Forikorder wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 Caihead wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?


The three base terran play and constantly denying the zerg's fourth while taking your fourth is pretty good vs Zerg.

You can't take your fourth because of the creep. And three base terran ain't enough to deny the zerg fourth, as shown in this game.
ByuN was even ahead in upgrades lol.

are you trying to say 3 base Zerg > 3 bast terran?

No I'm saying I don't understand how antiga is supposed to be terran favored.

because if the terran wants to he can prevent the Zerg from ever holding a 4th so the Zerg has to 3 base all-in

You are saying ByuN did want SymboL to hold his fourth?
He could not prevent it.
WriterMaru
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3807 Posts
January 11 2013 12:42 GMT
#1357
On January 11 2013 21:34 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:31 decado90 wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:30 Ghanburighan wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 decado90 wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?



It's not, it's the biggest myth in all of SC2 and it's fucking stupid.

Terran has a LOSING record on Antiga vs Z and P in 2012. People are just morons.


Educate me: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/500_Antiga_Shipyard_1.2



herp derp.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=maps&id=500&part=games&matchup=TvZ&league=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=1&to_year=2013&to_month=1&to_day=10&action=Update



Like I said, 2012


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=maps&id=500&part=games&matchup=TvZ&league=any&from_year=2012&from_month=7&from_day=1&to_year=2013&to_month=1&to_day=10&action=Update

- laughably bad post patch


Interesting, Z has a pretty solid record on Antiga pretty much no matter which dates you choose. Hello, zerg shipyard.

P.S. Don't be rude.


EDUCATED!!!!!!!!!! :D
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 11 2013 12:42 GMT
#1358
On January 11 2013 21:27 Glubschauge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:26 Fragile51 wrote:
Weird, no matches planned next week? Wonder the downtime is for D:


preparation!

and the group selection i guess. talking about that. does anyone know when it will be?


Group selection ceremony is for ro16, not ro32.
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
January 11 2013 12:42 GMT
#1359
Huk qualifies and Jaedong doesn't.
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.jpg
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 12:45:47
January 11 2013 12:43 GMT
#1360
On January 11 2013 21:39 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2013 21:35 Forikorder wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:27 Caihead wrote:
On January 11 2013 21:26 Poopi wrote:
So how is antiga terran favored in the current patch/metagame?
I want to understand lol. If the zerg spreads his creep well enough you take soo much time before being able to take your fourth?


The three base terran play and constantly denying the zerg's fourth while taking your fourth is pretty good vs Zerg.

You can't take your fourth because of the creep. And three base terran ain't enough to deny the zerg fourth, as shown in this game.
ByuN was even ahead in upgrades lol.

are you trying to say 3 base Zerg > 3 bast terran?

No I'm saying I don't understand how antiga is supposed to be terran favored.


Well, compare to Abyssal, whirlwind, vestige... Antiga is better for Terran. People think Antiga is so good for Terran because a lot of terrans pick it when they get map choice. But this is done because most of the other maps are bad for Terran.
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