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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
January 11 2013 20:36 GMT
#561
On January 12 2013 05:35 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:32 Snowbear wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?

Well when you go bio,you usually don't go for banshees.then you have marines which kill overlords,fast.Then you have bunkers.There


And you think any normal player will put marines in his main when he sees 20 roaches coming? Before you know what happened, the roaches are dropped.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
January 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#562
The vikings were the mistake I guess. Could have had 3 banshees, plus two tanks and once you snipe the queens its a race between the roaches doing enough damage vs 3 orbital?

That said, the chances of weird outcomes is always higher online.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#563
On January 12 2013 05:35 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:32 Snowbear wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?

Well when you go bio,you usually don't go for banshees.then you have marines which kill overlords,fast.Then you have bunkers.There

100% wrong. You're deluded if you think you can kill so many Overlords with a handful of Marines before they drop.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45305 Posts
January 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#564
On January 12 2013 05:31 iKill wrote:
I can't decide if Gowser or Goswer is the most fun way to misspell his name.


Yeah as I'm reading these posts... is it really that hard to spell Goswser? The idea is a one-word "Gosu user", with the "double u" being "w". Right?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
January 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#565
On January 12 2013 05:35 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:32 Snowbear wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?

Well when you go bio,you usually don't go for banshees.then you have marines which kill overlords,fast.Then you have bunkers.There


What? No, you still get banshee, because otherwise you're just hoping you're not getting roach/ling/blinged. So no, a bio build dies fucking hardcore aswell, because 7-9 marines still won't hold 20 roaches.
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speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
January 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#566
Called goswser's win yesterday or 2 days ago, don't remember. I'm sure you will claim that goswser is just a really really amazing player (one of the 30 "upcoming" top zergs perhaps), but surely you must understand that when trash like this rolls over someone like MVP, there's something really wrong.

User was temp banned for this post.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 11 2013 20:38 GMT
#567
On January 12 2013 05:35 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:32 Snowbear wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?


Maybe you don't need to be doing all of those things if zerg doesn't take a 3rd base. consider making units instead.


Dude, seriously, you can't just throw a factory and pump siege tanks from your command centers. It doesn't work like that. It's a tough build to play, it's debatable whether it's safe or not and MVP definitely could have done stuff different. But don't act like he suddenly could've canceled the 3rd CC and one armory and spawn 5 siege tanks and 3 banshees.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
January 11 2013 20:38 GMT
#568
On January 12 2013 05:37 Derez wrote:
The vikings were the mistake I guess. Could have had 3 banshees, plus two tanks and once you snipe the queens its a race between the roaches doing enough damage vs 3 orbital?

That said, the chances of weird outcomes is always higher online.

Banshees wouldn't have done shit.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 11 2013 20:38 GMT
#569
On January 12 2013 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:31 iKill wrote:
I can't decide if Gowser or Goswer is the most fun way to misspell his name.


Yeah as I'm reading these posts... is it really that hard to spell Goswser? The idea is a one-word "Gosu user", with the "double u" being "w". Right?

yeah that's what it is but I like to say it in my head as "go-swer" for some reason
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#570
Time for proxy hatch maybe ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
January 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#571
From Seed's stream. :p

IMSeed: now ironsquid
Morigal: ?
IMSeed: streaming
Morigal: yeah
Morigal: Mvp losing to goswser I hear T__T
IMSeed: gosuuser really gosu
IMSeed: :D
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
January 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#572
To conclude: hellion banshee builds are actually becoming less viable, because these roach builds counter them. The next step is roach hydra (stephano is the only zerg so far mastering it, the rest is usually 1-2 months behind him).
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#573
On January 12 2013 05:35 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:32 Snowbear wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?


Maybe you don't need to be doing all of those things if zerg doesn't take a 3rd base. consider making units instead.


Terran is not zerg. You can't just scout no early third and make a round of marines and marauders. The infrastructure will already be put down before you get to scout the 3rd timing. If you went mech or helion banshee etc. you are already dead.

You would need to have bio as your game plan right from the bat and do a TvP like 1rax fe build into 10 min marine marauder medivac timing to defend that.If you go for fast tanks you still wont have enough, if you go banshees you still wont have enough. This hits at 10:30.

oscarsg
Profile Joined January 2013
75 Posts
January 11 2013 20:40 GMT
#574
Given that Lucifron has demolished and obliterated Goswser with the same opening several times the last two weeks, I'm leaning more towards poor play by Mvp.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
January 11 2013 20:40 GMT
#575
On January 12 2013 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:31 iKill wrote:
I can't decide if Gowser or Goswer is the most fun way to misspell his name.


Yeah as I'm reading these posts... is it really that hard to spell Goswser? The idea is a one-word "Gosu user", with the "double u" being "w". Right?


I think that the real issue here is why and how the double V became a double U
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Lixo
Profile Joined May 2011
202 Posts
January 11 2013 20:41 GMT
#576
On January 12 2013 05:36 Anta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:34 Lixo wrote:
I used to play zerg when I did play starcraft 2, 1 year ago, and now all I hope for is zergs losing (except for Nestea).
What is wrong blizzard, why did you do that to us ?

pfffff


I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 11 2013 20:42 GMT
#577
On January 12 2013 05:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 iKill wrote:
I can't decide if Gowser or Goswer is the most fun way to misspell his name.


Yeah as I'm reading these posts... is it really that hard to spell Goswser? The idea is a one-word "Gosu user", with the "double u" being "w". Right?


I think that the real issue here is why and how the double V became a double U


U and V actually were interchangeable 150 years ago (and still is in some languages).
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 11 2013 20:42 GMT
#578
On January 12 2013 05:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 iKill wrote:
I can't decide if Gowser or Goswer is the most fun way to misspell his name.


Yeah as I'm reading these posts... is it really that hard to spell Goswser? The idea is a one-word "Gosu user", with the "double u" being "w". Right?


I think that the real issue here is why and how the double V became a double U

Well, how do you pronounce "W" in english?
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2013 20:42 GMT
#579
More creep abuse incoming.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 11 2013 20:43 GMT
#580
On January 12 2013 05:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:31 iKill wrote:
I can't decide if Gowser or Goswer is the most fun way to misspell his name.


Yeah as I'm reading these posts... is it really that hard to spell Goswser? The idea is a one-word "Gosu user", with the "double u" being "w". Right?


I think that the real issue here is why and how the double V became a double U

because U used to be V
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