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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#521
That Roach drop was completely unscouted! Haha, MVP had no idea until the Overlords were in his base. Surprise attack is a surprise!
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#522
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
PaperPrinter
Profile Joined December 2012
33 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#523
Terran has to play greedy vs zerg, but can be punished so easily . Zerg can play greedy but cant be punished :/
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#524
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Any standard bio based build will mow down the overbags before they can drop their pants
"NO" -Has
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#525
Haha PERFECT! I want you zergs to spread the word and use this build A LOT. 90% of terrans go hellion banshee, and guess what they don't have around 10:00? AN ARMY. I wonder how long it takes before zergs start using this more, because this really hardcounters every hellion banshee build.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#526
On January 12 2013 05:30 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow. Really smart play by Goswser.


I felt like that was a blind counter. I am not so sure that he saw anything that tipped him off that MVP was going mech.


Gowser did his homework and studied what MVP does usually on this map. It's a calculated risk. If MVP scouts it early on it can backfire horribly.
Pokemon Master
IronSquid
Profile Joined January 2012
France487 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#527
Poll: Recommend Goswser - Mvp Game 2

Yes (18)
 
67%

No (7)
 
26%

If you have time (2)
 
7%

27 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Goswser - Mvp Game 2

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#528
On January 12 2013 05:25 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:23 gillon wrote:
I don't know guys, it simply feels like goswser is a league above Mvp, y'know. Maybe, in the future, he might stand a chance. But as it is right now the sheer discrepancy in skill between the two players is astounding. Goswser is truly displaying true RTS skill that Mvp simply cannot match.

can one be warned for this kind of trolling? serious question. i've been warned for no particular reason several times on here so i don't really get the rules.


What do you mean by trolling? Truly there first two games have demonstrated my point? The sheer dominance displayed.
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DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#529
goswer probably best french zerg

On January 12 2013 05:25 ragz_gt wrote:
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On January 12 2013 05:23 tabeatz wrote:
I hope goswser can pull through against mvp but it seems unlikely.


Why? He might not be favored but it would not even be that big of an upset. Goswser did beat MMA to get here.

2012 MMA, don't forget that
He beat the 2012 MMA that is considerably weaker than 2011 MMA and even weaker than 2013 MMA
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#530
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?


Definitely not pure hellions with SCVs.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#531
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?


tbh, together with Nydus/multi pronged tunneling claws, it's a build designed months ago specifically to answer greedy thirds into mech play

you can, obviously, hold it with a lot of other stuff
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#532
On January 12 2013 05:31 Snowbear wrote:
Haha PERFECT! I want you zergs to spread the word and use this build A LOT. 90% of terrans go hellion banshee, and guess what they don't have around 10:00? AN ARMY. I wonder how long it takes before zergs start using this more, because this really hardcounters every hellion banshee build.

Most hellion banshee builds try and do some damage. MVP just wasn't there for these games, a shame.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#533
On January 12 2013 05:31 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:30 justinpal wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow. Really smart play by Goswser.


I felt like that was a blind counter. I am not so sure that he saw anything that tipped him off that MVP was going mech.


Gowser did his homework and studied what MVP does usually on this map. It's a calculated risk. If MVP scouts it early on it can backfire horribly.


Ah, well I always thought as MVP as the man with 1000x builds. If that's true, props to him then.
Never make a hydralisk.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#534
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#535
Bad build, no scouting, dead... You're going to blame this on balance too?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#536
goswer
gowswer
goswser
gosuuser
go suser
go swuser
go suwer
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#537
On January 12 2013 05:31 PaperPrinter wrote:
Terran has to play greedy vs zerg, but can be punished so easily . Zerg can play greedy but cant be punished :/

i summarize it for you: qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#538
Iron Squid has the best break music. After listening to NASL and IPL commercial breaks, those guys could really take a page from Iron Squid
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#539
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Against 2-bases Roaches you need to produce Banshees non-stop and build your second and third Factories very early so you have some Tanks, but honestly Roaches drops are such a bane for mech and scouting it in time is not even possible (no real difference with a frontal Speedroaches timing until Overlord speed is done).
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#540
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


You would need to do something like 1 rax fast expand into 2 extra rax and pump marines and marauders with like 2 medivacs around 10-11 min when it hits.

Which means you need to get lucky to go for that build right from the start for some reason because that is not really a build you would do in TvZ.
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