• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:20
CEST 10:20
KST 17:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
+2348106233580 #I want to join brotherhood society Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [G] Progamer Settings Help, I can't log into staredit.net
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 625 users

Iron Squid II Ro16 Day 1 - Page 27

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 46 Next All
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#521
That Roach drop was completely unscouted! Haha, MVP had no idea until the Overlords were in his base. Surprise attack is a surprise!
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#522
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
PaperPrinter
Profile Joined December 2012
33 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#523
Terran has to play greedy vs zerg, but can be punished so easily . Zerg can play greedy but cant be punished :/
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#524
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Any standard bio based build will mow down the overbags before they can drop their pants
"NO" -Has
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#525
Haha PERFECT! I want you zergs to spread the word and use this build A LOT. 90% of terrans go hellion banshee, and guess what they don't have around 10:00? AN ARMY. I wonder how long it takes before zergs start using this more, because this really hardcounters every hellion banshee build.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
January 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#526
On January 12 2013 05:30 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow. Really smart play by Goswser.


I felt like that was a blind counter. I am not so sure that he saw anything that tipped him off that MVP was going mech.


Gowser did his homework and studied what MVP does usually on this map. It's a calculated risk. If MVP scouts it early on it can backfire horribly.
Pokemon Master
IronSquid
Profile Joined January 2012
France487 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#527
Poll: Recommend Goswser - Mvp Game 2

Yes (18)
 
67%

No (7)
 
26%

If you have time (2)
 
7%

27 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Goswser - Mvp Game 2

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#528
On January 12 2013 05:25 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:23 gillon wrote:
I don't know guys, it simply feels like goswser is a league above Mvp, y'know. Maybe, in the future, he might stand a chance. But as it is right now the sheer discrepancy in skill between the two players is astounding. Goswser is truly displaying true RTS skill that Mvp simply cannot match.

can one be warned for this kind of trolling? serious question. i've been warned for no particular reason several times on here so i don't really get the rules.


What do you mean by trolling? Truly there first two games have demonstrated my point? The sheer dominance displayed.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#529
goswer probably best french zerg

On January 12 2013 05:25 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:23 tabeatz wrote:
I hope goswser can pull through against mvp but it seems unlikely.


Why? He might not be favored but it would not even be that big of an upset. Goswser did beat MMA to get here.

2012 MMA, don't forget that
He beat the 2012 MMA that is considerably weaker than 2011 MMA and even weaker than 2013 MMA
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#530
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?


Definitely not pure hellions with SCVs.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#531
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?


tbh, together with Nydus/multi pronged tunneling claws, it's a build designed months ago specifically to answer greedy thirds into mech play

you can, obviously, hold it with a lot of other stuff
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#532
On January 12 2013 05:31 Snowbear wrote:
Haha PERFECT! I want you zergs to spread the word and use this build A LOT. 90% of terrans go hellion banshee, and guess what they don't have around 10:00? AN ARMY. I wonder how long it takes before zergs start using this more, because this really hardcounters every hellion banshee build.

Most hellion banshee builds try and do some damage. MVP just wasn't there for these games, a shame.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#533
On January 12 2013 05:31 Seiniyta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:30 justinpal wrote:
On January 12 2013 05:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Wow. Really smart play by Goswser.


I felt like that was a blind counter. I am not so sure that he saw anything that tipped him off that MVP was going mech.


Gowser did his homework and studied what MVP does usually on this map. It's a calculated risk. If MVP scouts it early on it can backfire horribly.


Ah, well I always thought as MVP as the man with 1000x builds. If that's true, props to him then.
Never make a hydralisk.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#534
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


Bio? How much bio do you think you can have if you follow your banshee hellion build up with a third CC, double grades, and raxes just finnishing making reactors?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#535
Bad build, no scouting, dead... You're going to blame this on balance too?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 11 2013 20:32 GMT
#536
goswer
gowswer
goswser
gosuuser
go suser
go swuser
go suwer
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#537
On January 12 2013 05:31 PaperPrinter wrote:
Terran has to play greedy vs zerg, but can be punished so easily . Zerg can play greedy but cant be punished :/

i summarize it for you: qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#538
Iron Squid has the best break music. After listening to NASL and IPL commercial breaks, those guys could really take a page from Iron Squid
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#539
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Against 2-bases Roaches you need to produce Banshees non-stop and build your second and third Factories very early so you have some Tanks, but honestly Roaches drops are such a bane for mech and scouting it in time is not even possible (no real difference with a frontal Speedroaches timing until Overlord speed is done).
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 11 2013 20:33 GMT
#540
On January 12 2013 05:31 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:30 Qwerty85 wrote:
That was like 20 + roaches 11min in the game. What build from terran can actually defend this?

Bio lol


You would need to do something like 1 rax fast expand into 2 extra rax and pump marines and marauders with like 2 medivacs around 10-11 min when it hits.

Which means you need to get lucky to go for that build right from the start for some reason because that is not really a build you would do in TvZ.
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech48
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 1608
Hyuk 857
Killer 634
yabsab 485
Leta 298
PianO 133
Noble 100
HiyA 52
Backho 35
Sharp 34
[ Show more ]
NaDa 22
sSak 16
Dewaltoss 15
Bale 11
Dota 2
ODPixel143
BananaSlamJamma136
XcaliburYe131
Fuzer 20
League of Legends
JimRising 566
Counter-Strike
olofmeister783
shoxiejesuss535
Stewie2K353
allub154
Super Smash Bros
Westballz40
Other Games
summit1g8470
ceh9236
Tasteless139
Pyrionflax109
SortOf107
NeuroSwarm55
PartinGtheBigBoy48
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1127
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 72
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH426
• davetesta39
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt465
• HappyZerGling150
Other Games
• Scarra1174
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 40m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2h 40m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6h 40m
PiGosaur Monday
15h 40m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 2h
Stormgate Nexus
1d 5h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 7h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.