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Cook
Profile Joined May 2011
France130 Posts
January 11 2013 20:23 GMT
#481
On January 12 2013 05:20 GodZo wrote:
Maybe the tournament is located in USA, so MvP plays with some lag, consider that.


Gowser is in France and MVP in Korea. I guess games have been played on NA server to even ping.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
January 11 2013 20:23 GMT
#482
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 20:24:21
January 11 2013 20:23 GMT
#483
Goswser has been really improving incredibally fast, he's probably the second best player in NA right now only behind Scarlett.

He played really well that game, and MVP basically did a build that relied on him being 10x better than Goswser. You can tell that he thought he could just outplay Goswser because of the emphasis on multiple drops, trying to pull him out of position, and playing super incredibally safe.

But Goswser played really well and managed to get off a sick engagement in the final fight, when vs Ultra I feel you want to wait to max out as Terran, and getting a fifth while you incorporate 10x the amount of maruders you have.

Couple that with the fact MVP has been resting from wrist injuries and Goswser has been practicing like a madman, and the results honestly aren't that suprising. I still expect MVP to win the series, but in a solid macro game Goswser hits 90% of injects.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 20:24:52
January 11 2013 20:24 GMT
#484
when did goswser build his pool?

that was pool first
15pool?
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 11 2013 20:25 GMT
#485
On January 12 2013 05:24 Oboeman wrote:
when did goswser build his pool?

that was pool first
15pool?


99% it was 14
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 11 2013 20:25 GMT
#486
On January 12 2013 05:23 tabeatz wrote:
I hope goswser can pull through against mvp but it seems unlikely.


Why? He might not be favored but it would not even be that big of an upset. Goswser did beat MMA to get here.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 11 2013 20:25 GMT
#487
On January 12 2013 05:23 gillon wrote:
I don't know guys, it simply feels like goswser is a league above Mvp, y'know. Maybe, in the future, he might stand a chance. But as it is right now the sheer discrepancy in skill between the two players is astounding. Goswser is truly displaying true RTS skill that Mvp simply cannot match.

can one be warned for this kind of trolling? serious question. i've been warned for no particular reason several times on here so i don't really get the rules.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
January 11 2013 20:26 GMT
#488
On January 12 2013 05:22 ShroudeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:20 GodZo wrote:
Maybe the tournament is located in USA, so MvP plays with some lag, consider that.

Or Mvp didn't play that well simple as that.Come on he's my favourite player and i want him to win but he's not the dominant beast he was in 2011,2 seasons of Gsl in 2012.


Still he most likely practices more against better opponents than gosuuser. He should not lose.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 11 2013 20:26 GMT
#489
If Goswser wins the series, a word histogram from the LR would include as top words "patchzerg(s)" and "wrist(s)", for sure. Disregarding as usual that Goswser may actually be just good.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2013 20:27 GMT
#490
On January 12 2013 05:23 Pandain wrote:
He played really well that game, and MVP basically did a build that relied on him being 10x better than Goswser. You can tell that he thought he could just outplay Goswser because of the emphasis on multiple drops, trying to pull him out of position, and playing super incredibally safe.

Love how you think you can deduce what Mvp was thinking just because he happens to drop at multiple places. Mentalist is your profession?
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#491
Goswser is forever underrated for some reason.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#492
Drop play and Mvp is going mech .. Doesnt look good for Mvp .
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#493
On January 12 2013 05:25 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 05:23 tabeatz wrote:
I hope goswser can pull through against mvp but it seems unlikely.


Why? He might not be favored but it would not even be that big of an upset. Goswser did beat MMA to get here.


Goswser also beat MKP last month at Numericable Cup, so he is showing some impressive form. You could make a case for him being the best American Zerg over the past month or so.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#494
MVP must know there's shenanigans incoming
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#495
Shit I dont think Mvp will be prepared for this in time...
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#496
Mvp's dead.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#497
Goswser seriously playing well this series, this build(or type of build, rather) is perfect after demolishing MVP in a macro game game 1.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#498
Damn, Roaches drops...
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
January 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#499
Goswser has interesting builds, like this game demonstrates. A two-base Roach drop build is so rare.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
January 11 2013 20:29 GMT
#500
LOOOOOOOL
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