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Inagural SC2BW Friday Tour
Welcome to the first SC2BW tournament. If you've been looking for a chance to show your BW skills, experience Mavercks mod with plenty of people online, or just plain curious then you're in the right spot. This is a simple, relatively informal, pride based tour to showcase the mod and re-experience an old game with a new look
Don't have any idea what on earth this is? Check here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=390265
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
Format
* Tour will be single elimination from RoX (dependent on number of players) to Ro8. Semifinals are Bo3 and finals will be Bo5.
*All games will be played on Fighting Spirit
Date/Time
Tour will begin at 01:00 GMT (+00:00) Friday, January 11th. The time, not date, is subject to change depending on the voting in the poll posted below. Poll closes Sunday @ 06:59 GMT (+00:00)
How to Sign Up
Post in the thread to indicate your interest. Players MUST indicate the race they will be playing as well as include their character code. Sign-Up with your Battle.net ID, NOT your TL id. Random is not allowed.
Rules
* Default game settings will be: NO Smartcast, OFF Limited Selection, Automine ON. Players MAY deviate from settings, provided both are in agreement. Players are encouraged to use the true BW settings, but are not required to do so.
*All games will be played on NA Server.
*All players are subject to administrative decision.
*Walk-Overs will occur is a player is more then 15 minutes late for his initial game time. After the tour has started, players have 15 minutes to respond to their next opponent (this 15 minutes starts when the opponent has also finish his game)
Results
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Players
+ Show Spoiler + Balthazar.496
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 , v  , v LucidDream.368
- Stardom.240
- ZealOtShield.127
- LaZeRKiDJ.556 ( v )
- fabiano.150
- ReasoN.764 ( v )
- lalush.955
- sero.756
- ETgoBoom.180
- October.259
- YueY.930
Bracket
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Organization: L_Master
Referees: L_Master
Casters: L_Master, TBD
Server: NA
Channel: SC2BW
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gl man, the time is so good so i hope to watch some matches!  definitely want to see some SC2BW!
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Unfortunatly I don't have a NA Account x.x .
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Don't have a NA account either.
It's strange to use CET prime time and NA Server.
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All games on fighting spirit doesn't seem right....
I think a 5 map pool would be useful, in bo3 make it losers choice.
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There are no other maps for this mod afaik  also would to participate but I'm EU. GL to all!
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Did you mean automine off? Isnt that true bw settings?
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On January 05 2013 00:09 Archerofaiur wrote:
Did you mean automine off? Isnt that true bw settings?
Those are tournament settings (automine on) but they encourage players to use true BW settings (automine off).
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I think we should default to complete BW settings. Having one SC2 setting thrown in there is just weird, and leaving it up to both players to decide can lead to some awkward situations since they most likely will either want full SC2 or full BW. The choice can still be there, but I feel it should be full one or the other. On full BW mode, it will cater to most of the people playing or tuning in. We should also stress the fact (on stream) that these settings are possible, as I find that a lot of people dismiss the game because it is not BW enough or not enough like SC2 mechanics.
Good job setting this up, though! I do find the time of the tournament odd, however, as a lot of people in NA are still working during this time. Nevertheless, I know we can't suit everyone's needs, so maybe we can find a happy medium as we have more tournaments.
Glad to have so many EU interests! Global play in HotS will help a lot. Before then, maybe we can have EU tournaments for SC2BW, as well.
P.S. You should post mention both current SC2BW threads in the OP
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=390265
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145316
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i can put a couple more maps up for this, will do that tomorrow.
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On January 05 2013 00:28 MavercK wrote:
i can put a couple more maps up for this, will do that tomorrow.
Yay, more maps! A day or two before this tournament, you should make sure that the maps are working and consistent/equal the best you can. Grand Line, Destination, and BGH still have 1500/2000 HP hatcheries/lairs; Fighting Spirit (on the Arcade) is fine. Sorry, I keep bugging you about that even though it's not your fault. Re-upload maybe? It seems Arcade maps hold changes better or something. >_<
I can go through all of the maps to make sure they are consistent a few days beforehand and let you know.
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On January 04 2013 21:44 Cyanure wrote:
It's strange to use CET prime time and NA Server.
Prolly because of your personal timezone settings.
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Storm needs to be fixed if possible. It lasts too long last time I checked (8 instead of 4 seconds) and it also was instant cast, none of the small delay that was in BW.
Edit: Actually just tested again, it looks like only the tool tip says that it's 8 seconds, in game it's really 4 according to the timer.
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Sign me up! (I'm a protoss)
I also think we should do BW settings to keep it as uniform and fair as possible.
Edit: Balthazar.496
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On January 05 2013 01:35 Ender2701 wrote:
Storm needs to be fixed if possible. It lasts too long last time I checked (8 instead of 4 seconds) and it also was instant cast, none of the small delay that was in BW.
Edit: Actually just tested again, it looks like only the tool tip says that it's 8 seconds, in game it's really 4 according to the timer.
Which map and when did you check? I just checked FS, and it lasts 4 seconds there. Have not seen problems with it elsewhere recently (it is 4 seconds). The tooltip says 8 seconds, though; it just needs to be updated.
I agree with adding a short casting time to storm, but only for when the HT is moving. Right now, HTs can move and then cast instantly (they stop moving instantly if casting storm -- no deceleration time) They should have to take the time to decelerate (~1 second) before casting anything. Casting instantly when standing still is fine, though. I believe that is how it was in BW, and it makes sense.
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This will be bananas. B A N A N A S.
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On January 05 2013 00:28 MavercK wrote:
i can put a couple more maps up for this, will do that tomorrow.
Okay. Map pool will be expanded then upon release of those.
EDIT: I'm also getting the gist an evening tourney would be better so let's do this:
Poll: Start Time?20:00 EST (evening start) (19) 59% 14:00 EST (afternon start) (13) 41% 32 total votes Your vote: Start Time? (Vote): 20:00 EST (evening start)
(Vote): 14:00 EST (afternon start)
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On January 05 2013 00:11 alone wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 00:09 Archerofaiur wrote:
Did you mean automine off? Isnt that true bw settings? Those are tournament settings (automine on) but they encourage players to use true BW settings (automine off).
Yea, basically this. I wanted a compromise between BW and SC2 settings as default, while still allowing players to go whichever way they want on the options if both feel strongly about it.
My personal trend is to favor BW settings, as I feel that this increases the amount of strategy on the time end (i.e. how do I spend my time), but plenty of people in the SC2BW thread indicated that full on BW settings are a really big shock to them and especially with this being the first one I prefer to strike a middle ground.
On January 05 2013 02:45 Sated wrote:
I don't know what you're talking about. :p
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Yeah, I think either a weekend or Friday evening time would be better. Apologies to our EU viewers/players, as it would no longer be on prime EU time. It should work better for all of us NA people, since it is on the NA server. Let's take a vote, though!
Personally, I would have to miss (most of, depending how long the tournament lasts) the games if it runs in the evening (unless a few hours later), but I would much rather miss it and have more players/viewers overall. I'm bad, anyway. >_<
Let's do this!
P.S. inaugural
Also, please make a note in the OP that Maverck is planning on adding more maps, so we will have a larger map pool.
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I'm not a funny gosu I guess. T_T
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Please post vods after tournament
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I would like to play in this if it starts at 17:00 pst :D
Stardom.240
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On January 05 2013 02:46 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 00:11 alone wrote:On January 05 2013 00:09 Archerofaiur wrote:
Did you mean automine off? Isnt that true bw settings? Those are tournament settings (automine on) but they encourage players to use true BW settings (automine off). Yea, basically this. I wanted a compromise between BW and SC2 settings as default, while still allowing players to go whichever way they want on the options if both feel strongly about it. My personal trend is to favor BW settings, as I feel that this increases the amount of strategy on the time end (i.e. how do I spend my time), but plenty of people in the SC2BW thread indicated that full on BW settings are a really big shock to them and especially with this being the first one I prefer to strike a middle ground. Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 02:45 Sated wrote:Slow down their Cowboy Slow down their their I don't know what you're talking about. :p + Show Spoiler +
Would have been so much better if you said "your" instead of "you're"
Edit: should have checked the thread
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BTW: If you haven't expressly posted in the thread that you want to play, with your race and battle net name/character code I don't know you want to play and won't have you as signed up.
If you're in doubt as to your status just check the players heading in the OP.
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Sign me up, I am Zerg, ZealOtShield.127 , streetsweeper113@aol.com, hopefully it starts at 12pm EST , I played BW For a long time and would love to play this
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ill play. ID/code/race: KILLBOT 371 PvP PvT TvZ
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On January 05 2013 05:20 satinysol wrote:Please post vods after tournament
That would be appreciated much.
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Automine ON it's really much better (also balance-wise) to be OFF
yes, your workers would sometimes be idle a lot, that's the beauty of it, you are forced to tougher time-spending decisions
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Sign me:
Fabiano.150
I vote for ALL BW mechanics, no automine, no MBS, no infinite group selection.
Quick question: EST = GMT-6?
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On January 05 2013 08:04 figq wrote:it's really much better (also balance-wise) to be OFF yes, your workers would sometimes be idle a lot, that's the beauty of it, you are forced to tougher time-spending decisions
See my previous posts, I agree with you completely. However, reading through the SC2BW thread there were a significant number of people that were really unprepared to play that way, so I struck a compromise for this tour.
As always though, players are allowed to use whatever settings they choose (provided they both agree) and are encouraged to use the true BW settings.
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I've mostly been waiting for these to start happening since the mod was announced.
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On January 05 2013 08:06 fabiano wrote:Sign me: Fabiano.150 I vote for ALL BW mechanics, no automine, no MBS, no infinite group selection. Quick question: EST = GMT-6?
I believe it's GMT - 5
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sign me:
ReasoN.764 ( TVP, TVZ, PVT)
bw settings FTW, oldschool style
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I'll play if it starts at the later time.
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gl all, this is played with brood war setting right?
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no NA account, gl hf all for this tournament
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On January 05 2013 08:39 Jaaaaasper wrote:
gl all, this is played with brood war setting right?
Please read the OP and thread. I've answered this at least 3-4 times already and it's clearly in the OP also.
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On January 05 2013 07:08 Archerofaiur wrote:That would be appreciated much.
Yup, they will absolutely be posted.
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Oh, missed this I guess. I'll watch the vods if they're posted, and hopefully compete in the next one!
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On January 05 2013 10:20 Chronos. wrote:
Oh, missed this I guess. I'll watch the vods if they're posted, and hopefully compete in the next one!
Actually, you didn't miss it it is next week. Please do sign up if you can ^^
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Oh, I would love to participate, but no limited selection and automine is a big NO for me... such a shame
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lalush.955
Prefer sc2 settings, but will play!
Protoss user in BW.
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On January 05 2013 11:52 Censured wrote:
Oh, I would love to participate, but no limited selection and automine is a big NO for me... such a shame
I may have had it reading wrong in the OP. Multiple selection will be allowed. Being able to put everything in one control group is overall a disadvantage anyway, and more a convenience for people not used to it so I have no problems with it being allowed. I would prefer no MBS but it comes paired with unit selection so there is little option there.
You'll have to live with automine OFF though.
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I'm in on this, especially if it's an evening start
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On January 05 2013 12:23 Ribbon wrote:
I'm in on this, especially if it's an evening start
Race and character code?
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Please sign me up. ^^
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) Sero.756
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I realized I didn't post my character code.
Balthazar.496
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On January 05 2013 12:04 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 11:52 Censured wrote:
Oh, I would love to participate, but no limited selection and automine is a big NO for me... such a shame I may have had it reading wrong in the OP. Multiple selection will be allowed. Being able to put everything in one control group is overall a disadvantage anyway, and more a convenience for people not used to it so I have no problems with it being allowed. I would prefer no MBS but it comes paired with unit selection so there is little option there. You'll have to live with automine OFF though.
Sorry, I mean I want to play in good old BW mode (automine off, no unlimited building selection, no smartcast...). But now I read OP again, and I'm happy (Players are encouraged to use the true BW settings, but are not required to do so.) Sorry for confusion. Now the only thing I need to do is to get myself a NA account
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There are so many protoss... if at the end the player list has like 70-80% protoss players then I would like to off-race as terran if possible.
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On January 06 2013 00:05 fabiano wrote:
There are so many protoss... if at the end the player list has like 70-80% protoss players then I would like to off-race as terran if possible.
That is fine. You'll need to decide by next Wednesday for sure which option you like to take.
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ETgoBoom.180
no random? k i protoss
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I really really hope storm and dark storm can be as epic in SC2 as they were in BW.
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I am looking forward to this so much!! Since my 50 APM 3v3 Hunters skills will just be a waste of peoples time, I will be only be watching. I'll will however have both popcorn and beer ready.
Thanks so much for doing this!
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Just a reminder that the poll for voting on the time of the tour closes in a few hours!
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Polling is closed. Tour will start at 01:00 GMT (+00:00)
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T_T so many Protosses. I wish I could play at that time.
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On January 07 2013 16:39 purakushi wrote:
T_T so many Protosses. I wish I could play at that time.
Haha ye there are. If it stays that way I will probably go TvP, PvZ, ZvT for diversity.
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Change me to zerg. More entertaining if we avoid a PvP-fest.
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Switch me to terran please, I've no idea how to play terran but its better than having a PvP fest >.>
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sign me up for dis. uedgaming.680 play terran
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Please change the OP to not say that all maps will be on FS. We have a ton more maps now.
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On January 10 2013 09:45 purakushi wrote:
Please change the OP to not say that all maps will be on FS. We have a ton more maps now.
I'll make an official map list here soon and post it.
Race changes noted. I should ask, would you guys changing race like to change entirely, or just vs protoss?
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One day out. 12 hours left for sign-ups!
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Would be pretty cool if you guys can get some sort of partnership going with the actual BW legacy starleague. Maybe broadcasting some games before they show theirs or something. Would be pretty neat imo
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I may not be able to participate, but I'll let you know tomorrow for sure. Regardless, I'm very excited to either play or observe!
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Just realized it's even in the upcoming events. ^^ Too bad it's not 20:00 CET anymore, but i'll still try to view the first 1-2 matches. GL guys!
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LadyRevolver.845
Let's do this shit.
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My internet is super slow and unstable so I might not be able to play
Hopefully it will stabilize until then.
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any chance i can play?
bush.725 terran player
edit> thk you
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On January 12 2013 08:13 ( bush wrote:
any chance i can play?
bush.725 terran player
Yea, I've decided to still accept sign-ups, until 30 minute before tour start.
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90 MINUTES TILL TOURNEY TIME!
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You should update the OP with latest information (map pool, etc).
Sad, I can't play in this. Hopefully, I can catch the tail end of it, though.
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I don't think you posted the stream link in the OP.
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hihi
YueY/930/zerg, thanks!
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OctobeR #259 - Zerg
gogogo! :D
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Gogogogogo this should be good!
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How's it going atm? Just tuned in
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I only ran around in this mod once by myself, it is remarkable how much it is like bw
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How good are these guys? Is it normal to float 300/300 resources almost the entire game?
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awww I would've played in this had I known about it
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Was an entertaining final, will watch again.
Cheers for putting this on guys!
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On January 12 2013 11:59 Supah wrote:
How good are these guys? Is it normal to float 300/300 resources almost the entire game?
They were around C level I think
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end already? where can watch vods i missed it
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On January 12 2013 13:21 satinysol wrote:
end already? where can watch vods i missed it
Once Dalk has uploaded them i'll or he will post link.
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Sad I missed this. I look forward to the VODs.
Hopefully, there will be more tournaments for SC2BW.
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Whoa, watching these games. The casting is good ^^. I like how they actually know a good amount about BW. Definitely informational and entertaining. Great job, casters!
Awesome final!
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Twitch, y u no have good VOD system :c
Will try to get on the Youtube VODs asap.
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On January 12 2013 14:40 Master of DalK wrote:Twitch, y u no have good VOD system :c Will try to get on the Youtube VODs asap.
Might suggest for your dedicated streamer friend to lower the bit rate a bit on the stream, as it got choppy at times (it's present in the VODs too).
It's either a too high bitrate, or his connection's up speed might just not be stable, in which case there's not much to be done about it.
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Nice games ... for a first tournament. I really like the part where one player loses "everything (at the front)" and still was able to defend against a followup attack.
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Russian Federation221 Posts
Thank you very much for the tournament.
All the games were very interesting and I liked very much the second game of the final. It was very cool back and forth game.
And imho these games clearly showed that no production boosts and no 2 gases help to break Deathballs. You must have noticed that almost in all the games battles happened when supply was between 70 and 140. I wish they played with limited selection too.
And lurkers are viable in this mod and it was so much fun to watch them.
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
I would only play if full bw settings was enforced.
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Is this going to be a weekly tournament?
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The VoDs are up on youtube.com/nozzgamingchannel . You can find them in a playlist down the right side
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There will be more tours. In the process of taking care of administrative stuff to be able to host them (tournament license).
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Fyi, irridiate doesn't work vs lurkers. I just had a game. I went SK terran with mass vessels to find out burrowed units (or maybe just lurkers?) were immune. Eraser technique still worked.
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EPT
