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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 23 2012 04:22 GMT
#601
Modesty already retired from pro gaming I have no idea why you bring up his name here anyway..
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
December 23 2012 04:22 GMT
#602
On December 23 2012 13:10 forsooth wrote:
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On December 23 2012 13:09 Whitewing wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:08 forsooth wrote:
I have no idea how JYP's supply managed to stay so low all that time.


He stayed on 2 base for a very long time, lost a lot of probes a few times, never had a particularly good saturation and kept trading.

No I mean even after he had 4 for a bit, his supply just never rose and he sat around doing nothing in particular. I was confuse.


He was suiciding units, and by the time he had 4 bases, his main and natural were mining out. He never had a particularly strong economy.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 23 2012 04:22 GMT
#603
On December 23 2012 13:20 iamho wrote:
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On December 23 2012 13:17 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:12 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:11 lbmaian wrote:
Can someone explain to me how the hell JYP lost this game? He was on 4 bases and more probes, and his income still looked lower than Soulkeys?


Was just outplayed by a far superior player. Very well played by Soulkey.

This. War of attrition and positioning are Brood War player's forte. He won by engaging intelligently and choosing his battles wisely. It just shows the difference between the Kespa players and the SC2 players


You know, Hero used to be a BW b-teamer.


i think you would be hard pressed to find korean sc2 pros w/o bw background, except the very young guys perhaps. Don't bring up moon, he doesnt count as he failed kinda hard :D
Broodwar for life!
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
December 23 2012 04:22 GMT
#604
On December 23 2012 13:20 Kyyuna wrote:
Wasn't Hydra doing well after jaedong started to lose his magic in ZvZ

Hydra and Effort have both gine on complete tears in zvz, with efforts being better--hes an absolute zvz monster
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#605
Why do they not let puma play ever, lol. He hasnt played a game yet because he plays late. Always open with Zenio and JYP
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#606
On December 23 2012 13:19 munchmunch wrote:
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On December 23 2012 13:17 renezerg wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:15 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:13 Waxangel wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:11 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:10 HolyArrow wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:08 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Maybe SoulKey deliberately forgot PG? A pro at that level with a ProLeague game on the line wouldn't make such a simple error. I think he realized he just needed ITs and the occasional Fungal, but never really needed to invest 150/150, though it would have helped a great deal.


Pros can make mistakes. Most recently I recall Violet forgetting PG in his 5th game against Parting at the Blizzard Cup. We also see players forget crucial tech like Thermal Lance sometimes.


I was thinking about that viOLet game when I posted, but the pressure of PL might force players to focus a lot more on the small details. Plus, a pro would know that their Infestors are a bit low on energy at least.


iono man, stork went an entire game without realizing his draogons didn't ahve range


Those were fun times watching stork do that against Bisu lol. "F u. I don't need range. Okay, maybe I did." How about JD forgetting glands. I wonder if I still have that gif of his face.


How about Jaedong not realizing his units were trapped in his main n_n
Anybody have a link for that? Would be fun to rewatch before the next game...


RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32748 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#607
On December 23 2012 13:20 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I think JYP just spent too much on harrasment. It looks nice and pretty to have units in your opponents mineral line and good drone kills... Doesn't really help you though when his army just comes and fucking kills you

Also I've been thinking for a while now that 80+ drones is kind of over rated. I could be horribly wrong, but I don't think it's that great to have that many drones. You can mine pretty damn efficiently with like 60-70 drones and have a much bigger standing army? Again this is just theorycrafting in my head I don't know the actual numbers etc. So my main question to some higher level players. Is the income from those 15-20 drones worth the hit in your army when you're on 3-4 bases?


Plus having less Drones = more army.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51080 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#608
On December 23 2012 13:20 opterown wrote:
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On December 23 2012 13:20 iamho wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:17 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:12 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:11 lbmaian wrote:
Can someone explain to me how the hell JYP lost this game? He was on 4 bases and more probes, and his income still looked lower than Soulkeys?


Was just outplayed by a far superior player. Very well played by Soulkey.

This. War of attrition and positioning are Brood War player's forte. He won by engaging intelligently and choosing his battles wisely. It just shows the difference between the Kespa players and the SC2 players


You know, Hero used to be a BW b-teamer.

a lot of the sc2 players atm were haha


I was about to make a statement but I don't know which hero hes talking about. there are 3 of them but one is irrelevant to this discussion.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#609
On December 23 2012 13:17 SkimGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 13:12 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:11 lbmaian wrote:
Can someone explain to me how the hell JYP lost this game? He was on 4 bases and more probes, and his income still looked lower than Soulkeys?


Was just outplayed by a far superior player. Very well played by Soulkey.

This. War of attrition and positioning are Brood War player's forte. He won by engaging intelligently and choosing his battles wisely. It just shows the difference between the Kespa players and the SC2 players


Are we still pretending that Kespa players are overall superior to ESF players despite a multitude of tournament occurrences that suggest otherwise?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#610
HAHA ♥
o choro é livre
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#611
LOL WHAT

kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#612
hahaha. that was beautiful.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#613
ROFL
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#614
lol, wtf was that?
realBogus
Profile Joined December 2012
United States24 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#615
Precious!!
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#616
what was that lol
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#617
LOL WTF haha
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#618
Could someone translate that?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#619
Hell yeah PL singing
ExceeD_DreaM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 04:24:35
December 23 2012 04:23 GMT
#620
On December 23 2012 13:18 EleanorRIgby wrote:
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On December 23 2012 13:17 StarStruck wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:14 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:14 ExceeD_DreaM wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:13 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 23 2012 13:09 EleanorRIgby wrote:
ZerO vs Jaedong, the 2 best zvz players in broodwar next


loool, man the day someone said ZerO was good in ZvZ.


Not in the beginning but towards the end it was him and jaedong... look at his zvz record for the last 30 or so zvz he played


There were probably like 10 zerg players better than him at ZvZ even towards the end of BW era.


ok name them that have better records them him towards the end


Now you guys have me interested. Time to TLPD because I really didn't watch much of hybrid league after the first couple of months.


he went 9-2 in zvz in 2012

in 2010/2011 he sometimes chokes when it was zvz in the ace match and that always stuck with him even when he was beating everyone late 2011 and 2012



Only note worthy wins were vs Hydra and Killer. 4 wins were vs hyvaa. Stop with the pointless argument,

Anyways, we are so off topic, let us enjoy Jaedong time now.
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