EPTAnyways, hope egtl stabilize soon. I know EG doesn't look at performance in players, but what puma executed in fricken proleague doesn't look good at all. It's Korean territory, these things aren't forgotten, ever.
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
Anyways, hope egtl stabilize soon. I know EG doesn't look at performance in players, but what puma executed in fricken proleague doesn't look good at all. It's Korean territory, these things aren't forgotten, ever. | ||
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NightElf
Bangladesh117 Posts
No wonder this the reason why player like jaedong,flash,fantasy,bisu were hailed in BW.. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:55 Fearest wrote: I am so disappointed in EGTL. They said they'll be serious about proleague but I think there are internal problems in the game house. You really have to tell these players, JYP, Zenio, PUMA, Huk, and Thorzain to step up their game. Their play is horrible and losing (like they have no clue) to people just switched over to sc2 is pretty pathetic. I don't think they play to win anymore, just did it for the hype and publication. I think they are not used to playing the Proleague format, where it is BO1. Team league format for SC2 is generally the Winner League format, which is different. Single game that can be prepared a specific build to snipe the opponent is very common here. Also, after the first match, they did not play so bad and losing 3-4 to strong teams like CJ and Stars is not that bad. Yeah, they need to step up if they want to go into the playoff, but at the same time being too critical to players now is not helpful. | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2553 Posts
On December 24 2012 14:51 NightElf wrote: Well...You cant blame players either...EG players are used to play BO 3 even in league set up..now playing BO 1 is completely different than that....anyone can win...1 single mistake and you are out of the game.. No wonder this the reason why player like jaedong,flash,fantasy,bisu were hailed in BW.. Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy and Bisu were hailed in BW mostly for their OSLs, MSLs and WCGs victories. They also all had gosu records in SPL, too, but that's not why they were hailed. Sea was a monster in SPL yet he is far from being hailed like the others. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On December 24 2012 16:34 CoR wrote: sry to say but i really dont get why jyp played the ace, knowing they will put shy or flying it was a gamble pvp, instead of having solid tvp by taejja ... I guess they are banking on WS putting Zerg as an Ace, which completely backfired them T T. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 24 2012 15:12 Veldril wrote: I think they are not used to playing the Proleague format, where it is BO1. Team league format for SC2 is generally the Winner League format, which is different. Single game that can be prepared a specific build to snipe the opponent is very common here. Also, after the first match, they did not play so bad and losing 3-4 to strong teams like CJ and Stars is not that bad. Yeah, they need to step up if they want to go into the playoff, but at the same time being too critical to players now is not helpful. I think people will be very much surprised come Winners League. While the other SC2 team leagues do follow the format, the format was never fully taken advantage of in terms of preparation by foreign/eSF teams because the focus on a team league was never strong for most teams (except SlayerS early on). Their idea of a "sniper" is fielding a player in his best matchup on a favorable map - Proleague teams' idea of a sniper is to have a player prepare for a week in advance to snipe one specific player on one or two specific maps and only do that. While in PL format players find out who they're going to play against 2 days before the match, in WL format players can be delegated all of their opponents the moment schedule is released. There's a lot more homework to be done in WL format, and I don't think EGTL players are the best at doing homework. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 24 2012 12:55 Fearest wrote: I am so disappointed in EGTL. They said they'll be serious about proleague but I think there are internal problems in the game house. You really have to tell these players, JYP, Zenio, PUMA, Huk, and Thorzain to step up their game. Their play is horrible and losing (like they have no clue) to people just switched over to sc2 is pretty pathetic. I don't think they play to win anymore, just did it for the hype and publication. rofl... Good lord they got 4-0'd once, lost 3-4 and won 1 4-0. Jesus christ give them time, the season is long and honestly I am happy to see them sweep a team and only lose to 2 others by 3-4. That's really close, they just need to choose their aces better or something to that effect. But lord man you are way over reacting lol. Thorzain his very first match was due to jet lag I guarantee it, his second match I don't think he practiced enough on the map and I dunno if he has played a third. JYP has won, I don't know if puma has, zenio has won, I mean jesus it's not like there has been a ton of games yet. | ||
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
On December 24 2012 17:00 blade55555 wrote: Exactly, the team's not falling apart or anything. They look like they belong there. It's just a matter of aces, ie. they need a strong one. It's even OK if their true ace takes a while to emerge. Which is why I don't understand the point of playing JYP, if you're going to gamble, at least put somebody with a good chance of ace potential in the hotseat, and give them some experience. rofl... Good lord they got 4-0'd once, lost 3-4 and won 1 4-0. Jesus christ give them time, the season is long and honestly I am happy to see them sweep a team and only lose to 2 others by 3-4. That's really close, they just need to choose their aces better or something to that effect. But lord man you are way over reacting lol. Thorzain his very first match was due to jet lag I guarantee it, his second match I don't think he practiced enough on the map and I dunno if he has played a third. JYP has won, I don't know if puma has, zenio has won, I mean jesus it's not like there has been a ton of games yet. | ||
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Delial
Poland217 Posts
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Kakaru2
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
Not to call JYP bad, but he's not even top 4 in EG-TL, and not even the best protoss. Stupid, loss deserving move. | ||
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Thallis
United States314 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Skwid1g
United States953 Posts
On December 31 2012 13:23 Shinta) wrote: Really? JYP ace? Come on fellas, I thought you wanted to win ~_~ Not to call JYP bad, but he's not even top 4 in EG-TL, and not even the best protoss. Stupid, loss deserving move. JYP is a lot better than you're giving him credit for, and I'm pretty sure they were expecting Zero or Soulkey to come out as ace, as JYP's PvZ is very strong. Questioning choices when you have no idea what they had planned is kind of silly, especially considering his performance throughout the rest of PL. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On December 31 2012 18:33 Sated wrote: You didn't see the results from the next game, did you... You know, the one where JYP won his set.  On December 31 2012 22:08 Skwid1g wrote: JYP is a lot better than you're giving him credit for, and I'm pretty sure they were expecting Zero or Soulkey to come out as ace, as JYP's PvZ is very strong. Questioning choices when you have no idea what they had planned is kind of silly, especially considering his performance throughout the rest of PL. You guys don't seem to read the fact that I said JYP is a good player, but he's not even top 4 in EG-TL, and not even their strongest protoss. Sure, they might have thought they he stood a chance with some special turn of events, but that still doesn't make it a good decision to send him out. You're saying that they "planned on the other team falling into their trap" rather than playing a player that can actually beat anyone on the other team. Play try fooling around with HerO - JYP stats. You think JYP's PvZ is better than HerO's? I'm not even a HerO fan, but come on guys... be smart about this.... | ||
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