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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 22 2012 18:21 GMT
#1341
BB dat shoutout, awesome
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1342
Yay BB shoutout <3
Glorious SEA doto
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
December 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1343
well deserved
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
December 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#1344
Link to BB's new site for the interested: http://aligulac.com/
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
December 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1345
anyone lagging?
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 18:23:54
December 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1346
Lan tournament suffers connection issues but sucks up to Blizzard regardless.
It's a scary to think what else they could get away with.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 18:23:29
December 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1347
blushing in shame :/ i called top 3 zergs with S ^^
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1348
On December 23 2012 03:20 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:17 zefreak wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:07 Pandain wrote:
By the way the only correct answer to the above poll was yes.

I seriously don't understand why people aren't begginning to acknowledge ZvZ as a really good matchup.

It's soooo positional with so many tactics like sniping queens and "fungal walloffs" and burrowed infestors and tunneling claw roaches and it's a really even matchup that rewards the better player. It requires immense micro but revolves around macro.

It's also one of the few matchup's in the game where you can reguarly make comebacks.


I'd say zvz is better than pvz and slightly better than pvp but way worse than the other matchups. You act like other matchups don't have these 'tactics' and positional play, when positional play is the definition of tvz and tvt.


TvZ to me is way too stale and a fragment of what it was.
IT usually just focuses around a pre-hive push or a pre-spire/infestation pit push, which then determines the game. Creep makes it so that you either win or lose with that push.

You don't see old 1-2 tank mairne medivac pushes or back and forth battles determining the game, it's pretty exciting when there are mutas but they only last for a while and then it gets into broodlord infestor where T loses.

And TvT imo is the best matchup right now, followed by ZvZ, then TvP.

And ZvZ is definitely wayyyy better than PvP, the only thing cool about PvP is micro and that happens in ZvZ


That pre-hive timing is way more interesting than roach/hydra/infestor though. I agree the matchup has fallen off but still rate both it and tvp (which is 2nd on my list) higher than zvz. ZvZ is soooo predictable with brief moments of brilliance.
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NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
December 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1349
Stephano doing a ZvT build :p
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#1350
On December 23 2012 03:20 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:18 SupLilSon wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:16 StarVe wrote:
The thread really is slow today. People don't seem to be emotionally invested in ZvZ matches.

Only so many times you can watch roach/infestor vs roach/infestor before it gets a bit old.

And what about tank/viking vs tank/viking?


Way more interesting to be honest, because theres a lot more decision making in managing a tank/viking army and positioning correctly. Cant walk around in a ball with tank/viking.

But watching only it all the time get's boring right? I like TvT as well but damn GomTvT got really boring after a while.
Avicularia
Profile Joined February 2012
540 Posts
December 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1351
I have to say that Roti's snots are a bit disgusting At least hide the microphone.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1352
Until 8:20 I thought Stephano was green, despite him being pink the whole series..
Refer to my post.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 22 2012 18:24 GMT
#1353
On December 23 2012 03:21 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:18 SupLilSon wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:16 StarVe wrote:
The thread really is slow today. People don't seem to be emotionally invested in ZvZ matches.

Only so many times you can watch roach/infestor vs roach/infestor before it gets a bit old.

And what about tank/viking vs tank/viking?


TvT is best matchup in game by far. Better player wins more often than any other.

Blizz ruined it in HOTS, but TvT in Wings is truly special.


Luckily every other matchup besides TvT seems to be improved in HotS.
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Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
December 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1354
What a terrific hold ;o
It appears I have been chosen.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1355
On December 23 2012 03:24 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:21 decado90 wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:18 SupLilSon wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:16 StarVe wrote:
The thread really is slow today. People don't seem to be emotionally invested in ZvZ matches.

Only so many times you can watch roach/infestor vs roach/infestor before it gets a bit old.

And what about tank/viking vs tank/viking?


TvT is best matchup in game by far. Better player wins more often than any other.

Blizz ruined it in HOTS, but TvT in Wings is truly special.


Luckily every other matchup besides TvT seems to be improved in HotS.

I really hope so, game needs more balance and variety.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
December 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#1356
On December 23 2012 03:23 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:20 zefreak wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:18 SupLilSon wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:16 StarVe wrote:
The thread really is slow today. People don't seem to be emotionally invested in ZvZ matches.

Only so many times you can watch roach/infestor vs roach/infestor before it gets a bit old.

And what about tank/viking vs tank/viking?


Way more interesting to be honest, because theres a lot more decision making in managing a tank/viking army and positioning correctly. Cant walk around in a ball with tank/viking.

But watching only it all the time get's boring right? I like TvT as well but damn GomTvT got really boring after a while.


The problem I had with the TvT era of the GSL is either the games were awful or they were absolutely amazing and you never knew which it was going to be until you watched it (if you watched live anyway).
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#1357
Damnit Stephano.
Refer to my post.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
December 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#1358
Omg snute you are so good
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Zyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands564 Posts
December 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#1359
Woow nice holds
ret * Leenock * DiMAGA * Grubby * FBH
Sigmur
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland497 Posts
December 22 2012 18:26 GMT
#1360
Wow, no surprise people are losing intrest in SC2.
ZvPvT in the groups, then Zerg vs Zerg vs Zerg (vs Zerg...).
I wonder how is this possible. Blizzard says this game is balanced.
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