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jumai
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada115 Posts
December 22 2012 18:00 GMT
#1301
dat Snute slow-ling timing, working again against a top level zerg. Guess it's time to add it to our playbooks?

(and pause the game to look it up? :p)
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 22 2012 18:00 GMT
#1302
TLO keeps making wrong calls, it's almost like he keeps mistaking which color is who
Refer to my post.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 22 2012 18:01 GMT
#1303
Also look at Snute's creep highway on the right side, too funny
Refer to my post.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
December 22 2012 18:02 GMT
#1304
Stephano so smart to immediately shave off a dozen roaches because he anticipated that Snute would send a hit squad to 3rd after the big runby into the main.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#1305
Poll: Do you Enjoy ZvZ?

No (76)
 
60%

Yes (50)
 
40%

126 total votes

Your vote: Do you Enjoy ZvZ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
December 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#1306
Great play
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
December 22 2012 18:04 GMT
#1307
i really understand nthg to ZvZ ... they were quite even for me and it ends with a rape 0_o
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 22 2012 18:04 GMT
#1308
On December 23 2012 03:04 Sea_aeS wrote:
i really understand nthg to ZvZ ... they were quite even for me and it ends with a rape 0_o

Not being able to spawn larvae on any hatchery is a huuuge disadvantage.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
December 22 2012 18:05 GMT
#1309
On December 23 2012 03:04 Sea_aeS wrote:
i really understand nthg to ZvZ ... they were quite even for me and it ends with a rape 0_o


2 queen snipe = less larvaes = stephano has been outproduced
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1774 Posts
December 22 2012 18:05 GMT
#1310
Stephano looks hungover
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
December 22 2012 18:07 GMT
#1311
By the way the only correct answer to the above poll was yes.

I seriously don't understand why people aren't begginning to acknowledge ZvZ as a really good matchup.

It's soooo positional with so many tactics like sniping queens and "fungal walloffs" and burrowed infestors and tunneling claw roaches and it's a really even matchup that rewards the better player. It requires immense micro but revolves around macro.

It's also one of the few matchup's in the game where you can reguarly make comebacks.
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
December 22 2012 18:07 GMT
#1312
On December 23 2012 03:04 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:04 Sea_aeS wrote:
i really understand nthg to ZvZ ... they were quite even for me and it ends with a rape 0_o

Not being able to spawn larvae on any hatchery is a huuuge disadvantage.


Yeah but he didnt have that much money left so even if he had larva he couldnt use them no ? Anw, its true i forgot about the queens killed.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 22 2012 18:08 GMT
#1313
On December 23 2012 02:58 aust77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:56 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:54 ACrow wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:51 00Visor wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:50 aust77 wrote:
I'm surprised Snute, with the results he's posted in this tournament and notably IPL5, is not on a more renowned team.

His contract is running out, he is looking for a new team. LiquidSnute?

Might be a good fit, TL without any active Scandinavians just doesn't feel right.


depends if EG finds him 'marketable' and throws cash at him


That's a possibility ^ EG snagged Suppy before he had achieved any major results- though he'd advanced fairly far in tournaments and pulled a good number of upsets here and there (as Snute is now doing).


If you follow the EU scene you know that Snute has some nice achievements already (2nd THOR Open, 2nd Campus party behind Supernova, Ro8 Dreamhack). Thats not comparable.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
December 22 2012 18:09 GMT
#1314
On December 23 2012 03:07 Pandain wrote:
By the way the only correct answer to the above poll was yes.

I seriously don't understand why people aren't begginning to acknowledge ZvZ as a really good matchup.

It's soooo positional with so many tactics like sniping queens and "fungal walloffs" and burrowed infestors and tunneling claw roaches and it's a really even matchup that rewards the better player. It requires immense micro but revolves around macro.

It's also one of the few matchup's in the game where you can reguarly make comebacks.


It doesn't matter if it's one of the best matchups (it's honestly not fucking hard considering how shitty most matchups in SC2 are). Myself personally, I'm just tired of ZvZ, we've seen it time and time again over the past 5 months. If it's not a shitty PvZ, it's a ZvZ. TvT is one of my favorite matchups and you can bet your ass I was damn tired of it during GomTvT era.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 22 2012 18:09 GMT
#1315
On December 23 2012 03:07 Pandain wrote:
By the way the only correct answer to the above poll was yes.

I seriously don't understand why people aren't begginning to acknowledge ZvZ as a really good matchup.

It's soooo positional with so many tactics like sniping queens and "fungal walloffs" and burrowed infestors and tunneling claw roaches and it's a really even matchup that rewards the better player. It requires immense micro but revolves around macro.

It's also one of the few matchup's in the game where you can reguarly make comebacks.

I think the cool thing these days is to hate zergs so that naturally extends to hating zvz. It is actually a really amazing dynamic matchup and anyone who has some experience with zerg and an open mind will realize that.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
December 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#1316
On December 23 2012 03:05 ssg wrote:
Stephano looks hungover


Pretty sure someone said he wasn't drinking.
Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
December 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#1317
[image loading]

My tournament stops here.

User was warned for this post
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 22 2012 18:11 GMT
#1318
On December 23 2012 03:07 Pandain wrote:
By the way the only correct answer to the above poll was yes.

I seriously don't understand why people aren't begginning to acknowledge ZvZ as a really good matchup.

It's soooo positional with so many tactics like sniping queens and "fungal walloffs" and burrowed infestors and tunneling claw roaches and it's a really even matchup that rewards the better player. It requires immense micro but revolves around macro.

It's also one of the few matchup's in the game where you can reguarly make comebacks.

TvT is awesome, but people got sick of GomTvT. I think ZvZ is enjoyable, but people get bored if they see one matchup very often.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
December 22 2012 18:15 GMT
#1319
One more Stephano !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
December 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#1320
On December 23 2012 03:07 Pandain wrote:
By the way the only correct answer to the above poll was yes.

I seriously don't understand why people aren't begginning to acknowledge ZvZ as a really good matchup.

It's soooo positional with so many tactics like sniping queens and "fungal walloffs" and burrowed infestors and tunneling claw roaches and it's a really even matchup that rewards the better player. It requires immense micro but revolves around macro.

It's also one of the few matchup's in the game where you can reguarly make comebacks.


It doesn't even come close to TvT, it's by far the most developed mirror, for me tanks are the cornerstone of SC2 positional play zoning units out and controlling space so well.
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