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Nadril
Profile Joined March 2012
68 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2901
On December 22 2012 20:14 Shorty90 wrote:
I wonder what happens if parting, after killing the third, just backs up and expands himself.


Hard to say, but I think it'd go to a fairly normal game where life would still have an edge. (I'm guessing he was up on workers, and he already had an infestation pit out so...)

KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2902
On December 22 2012 20:14 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:13 Crazypyro1 wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:12 kheldorin wrote:
Morale of the story: Whiners should stop whining. In the end, they are always WRONG!


Moral of the story: When you get ahead, get more ahead and try not to kill your opponent when you already used your amazing push to get the lead.


Killing a hatchery then going home doesn't put you ahead.


It does if you stay a little while to delay third while getting your own third and teching up.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2903
On December 22 2012 20:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
Incredible LR.

Life holds with incredible tenacity, and the same Protosses that were just saying "amazing forcefields" are right back to "lol winfestors kill everything".



nope i have no problem with infestors to bad parting couldnt get storm up would have been an easy hold then(especially with the new egg hp)
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2904
On December 22 2012 20:12 Nadril wrote:
Amazing. A zerg doesn't try to hold his 3rd base and doesn't try to run headfirst into forcefields with ling/roach and holds the push and then wins the game.


This isn't the first game I've seen this, another zerg (can't remember who) won against Hero after giving up his third, massing infestors then retaking it. As long as the drones are moved from the third early and they don't throw away units they'll end up ahead. Most zergs are just too stubborn about trying to save the third though.
efracozz
Profile Joined December 2012
21 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2905
Life finds always a way, go LIFE
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2906
On December 22 2012 20:14 Fjodorov wrote:
I think Partings fall in that game is that he considers his push an all in when it really isnt. He is almost guaranteed to kill the third, and if he would just fall back and take his own third he would be ahead.

If he could do that and be ahead PvZ would most likely be broken. You actually can't afford to do that, You have to kill the zerg with it, otherwise your tech becomes outdated and you have nothing to answer for the swarm of units coming for you immediately afterwards.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2907
so much whining going on..
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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2908
On December 22 2012 20:14 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
Incredible LR.

Life holds with incredible tenacity, and the same Protosses that were just saying "amazing forcefields" are right back to "lol winfestors kill everything".


Standard LR, both sides whine and then there's the people whining about the whining.

And the people whining about the people whining about the people whining!
Lephex2.0
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany43 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2909
austrian dnb represent :D
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
December 22 2012 11:16 GMT
#2910
See? All the retards and zerg tears who thought this game needs to be nerfed just because one player makes one build perfectly with godly micro. Because fuck thinking and figuring the actual way to defend it, QQ'ing is so much more fun! Like there hasn't been any powerful builds before, which needed time to figure out how to defend them.

WHOAH LIFE DEFENDED, what do you say now?
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2911
On December 22 2012 20:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
Incredible LR.

Life holds with incredible tenacity, and the same Protosses that were just saying "amazing forcefields" are right back to "lol winfestors kill everything".


Standard LR, both sides whine and then there's the people whining about the whining.

Making an objective comment is whining about whining?

I'm just here to talk about the games son.

As am I, I wasn't saying you are one of people whining, I was describing that this isn't really that incredible of an LR at all.

Also 'son', really? D:
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2912
On December 22 2012 20:16 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 SolidMoose wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 ACrow wrote:
Where are the Z whiners that claimed the WonWonWon was unstoppable? Hm? I thought so...


I don't even play zerg and that looks hard as hell to hold if not done perfectly


It took a GSL champion to hold it. And a GSL champion just lost to it a round ago. Anyway, PvZ man. I'll stop complaining.

Great play from both players. Nice hold by Life. I wasn't sure if he could transition out of it but great engagement to kill the first colo. That was huge.


A GSL champion to combat with another GSL champion? Holy shit batman, somebody give this man an award.
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menden
Profile Joined May 2012
France30 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 11:17:43
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2913
Well it was great by Life, but I feel that Parting should've went back with his army after sniping the third when he saw infestors+spines. He would have been in a better position, if not in a lead.
Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2914
People still crying about infestors and how they even counter this all-in? Get your head out of your ass, Life had to sacrifice a lot to be able to get the infestors and actually had to have incredible micro to be able to defend.

It's the 2 best players in the world playing, your whining isn't valid.
Hello
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4522 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2915
On December 22 2012 20:15 Doko wrote:
That game was hilariously awesome
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fixed that for ya

jkjk:D
hi. big fan.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2916
On December 22 2012 20:16 GhostKorean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
Incredible LR.

Life holds with incredible tenacity, and the same Protosses that were just saying "amazing forcefields" are right back to "lol winfestors kill everything".


Standard LR, both sides whine and then there's the people whining about the whining.

And the people whining about the people whining about the people whining!

Well played.
phrenzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom478 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2917
On December 22 2012 20:13 Crazypyro1 wrote:
Moral of the story: When you get ahead, get more ahead and try not to kill your opponent when you already used your amazing push to get the lead.


I respectively disagree. It depends on the situation. At the highest levels progamers exploit every opportunity they have to win. Be it to push ahead or retreat for a stronger army. In this scenario i think it would have been better for Parting to retreat but it isn't a decision that should always be made blindly imo.
Boiler Bandsman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States391 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2918
On December 22 2012 20:15 Aven wrote:
God forbid that an all-in is holdable


Was anyone complaining about that?

All I saw was comeuppance for the poor, helpless Zergs claiming that they were dead if they went 3 hatch and dead if they went 2 base.

It's been going on for PartinG's entire run, and none of them would admit any sort of change might work.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2919
On December 22 2012 20:16 Noc- wrote:
See? All the retards and zerg tears who thought this game needs to be nerfed just because one player makes one build perfectly with godly micro. Because fuck thinking and figuring the actual way to defend it, QQ'ing is so much more fun! Like there hasn't been any powerful builds before, which needed time to figure out how to defend them.

WHOAH LIFE DEFENDED, what do you say now?


I say if Parting elevators into the main as soon as he sees the spine wall he wins. Instead he suicided half his army into the spines and then tried to elevator.
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2920
On December 22 2012 20:16 Crazypyro1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 kheldorin wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Crazypyro1 wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:12 kheldorin wrote:
Morale of the story: Whiners should stop whining. In the end, they are always WRONG!


Moral of the story: When you get ahead, get more ahead and try not to kill your opponent when you already used your amazing push to get the lead.


It still meant that the push was STOPPED! Stop changing the argument to suit you. I guess whiners will always twist their world view to confirm their prejudice.


No one said it couldn't be stopped. It just can't be stopped if you take a third and don't put yourself at a major disadvantage if your opponent just decides to take a third instead of pushing.


Right. No one calls it the unstopppable immortal sentry all-in in your world. Sure.
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